+ 10 Ultima Replacements
Replacements for the 9 vials of bunk Test E, can't put a date exactly on when I was injecting the bad batch but I know I had at least 5+ weeks of it in me...
Some filled more than others... Anyone have any test results for these?
Batch number for these are all MTO86022
Not that it really matters
My Opinion
Honestly respect for replacing them but I've got a very sour taste in my mouth after this whole situation and 99% likely won't be ever touching these, they'll sit in my cabinet incase the world ends and times get desperate enough to risk trying it again.
It really just shouldn't have happened, it's unacceptable. Not once along the way from producer, to the stockist, then to the supplier, or anyone else who had hands on this along the way was it not tested.
That's just fucking ridiculous.
And I don't care what any of you say, if you're fucking selling it, you should test it.
"But we drop ship, we dont actually hold any product"
You're just as fucking complicit as the producer, even more so as this stuff is going into peoples bodies.
If I was selling anything, even if I was crocheting fucking socks and selling them on Ebay I'd have the decency to fucking wear a pair and test them out before selling them. That's what any decent business owner would do.
Completely disrespectful to everyone's health, money and trust.
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Idk maybe its just me but all of you are running from Ultima and im thinking this is the best time to buy some, do you really think they are going to cause this much chaos w bunk stuff then go out and still give bunk stuff? I dont think so.
Are these the butthole butyl stoppers?
No idea, I haven't cracked one open yet and likely wont - More than likely yes though
Are they white stoppers or gray
They are translucent white
Those are the good ones , silicone
I keep being told to wait for test results but even with the results come back how do I even trust them. I explained it 5 times I’m afraid to pin that that brand ever again. There has been way to many horror stories with team. A different brand should of been sent out as a replacement especially that it’s not even offered anymore on site
I just got my replacement from it begins with the letter N.... Batch mto 99772 test enanthate and test/eq mix. I'm not going to test them because even if its ok its just creepy knowing that even happened. I just am going to dispose of it and learn a lesson not to ever trust that source again.
Agree in full . All of them just want to pass the blame and no one wants to take responsibility . If I was a source I wouldn’t even be sending última or any of the brands as the “replacement.”
---------------- these people don’t learn
Bro @Gotem69 Yeah, you’ve got a point for sure.
At the end of the day, passing responsibility down the chain doesn’t really cut it in this game. Whether it’s the lab, the middleman, or the seller …someone has to take ownership, especially when it’s something people are putting into their bodies.
The whole “we just dropship” argument sounds convenient, but realistically, if you’re making money off it, you’re part of the responsibility loop. Quality control shouldn’t stop at the source … it should be verified at multiple levels, not assumed.
What makes it worse is this wasn’t a minor issue … 5+ weeks of bunk test can throw off hormones, progress, and even mess with health markers. That’s not something you just brush off with a replacement, even if they did the right thing after.
Respect for making it right, sure … but situations like this are exactly why trust gets broken. In this game, trust is everything, and once it’s shaken, it’s hard to rebuild.
You can tell how much the each of the sources care about customer satisfaction & happiness regarding the gear they receive by their comments and activity in their SI page. Look at Uncle for example - if someone is occasionally unhappy about one of his products then he is fuckin mortified about it on his SI page and you can genuinely tell. He doesn't get arsy or defensive in his response back, instead he does his best to make the customer happy again by looking into the actual product and sending out replacements often that he has used himself and knows that its good.
Very well said, brother man.
Feels like the smaller labs/brewers tend to care more … not always the rule, but they’ve got more on the line and still choose to stand on integrity over greed. Unc is a perfect example, good guy and stands behind his stuff.
Rare to see nowadays. Solid observation, Press
Not to mention the fake gear that is Vitamin E a lot of that can actually act as a blood thinner and that alone could cause serious harm or death.
Like hulk hogan used to say amen brother!
"But we drop ship, we dont actually hold any product" at the end of the day these are still drugs it's like a fetnyl dealer saying "ohh i didn't make the shit so i shouldn't be held liable if someone dies from it" lmfao
Good point
Fake drug dealer
You have a good point
Namsayin
Real namsayin
Let's go find some hobo to beat to death over all this under-dosed gear drama. He/she will understand.
We can explain the situation as we are throwing them over the side of a bridge.
I’m in.
And then go rape @Aggieguy
Yes and then frame him for the murder we just committed.
Eroids is the best. Really brings out my creativity.
You’re in.
Im in.
We both will be in @Aggieguy
You cannot rape the willing, now that being said, I dont think @CLAPPER would be very happy with you two but I dont know that your straws would work since all the gear we have is fake.
You tellin me all the times I soddomised my ex in the Catsuit and she cried didn't count??? I'm upset now ....
That's what the judge is gonna tell Aggie when he's being led away in cuffs. "YOURE IN".
turns out @Gotem69 is really a cop and helps us get away with it.
Real cop like the guy in the village people music group
Was an inside job the whole time
Is color a deciding factor? I got some of their mixes that don’t have cyp or enath. Color looks fine.
Should I be concerned?
We understand that you guys are angry and is completely justified. I am telling everyone that this situation was unprecedented at this level.
I think everyone should understand that, considering the nature of this business, the relationship between a source and a manufacturer is based on trust and that trust was unshaken until this situation happened. The question you want to ask yourself is: "What would be the interest in selling bad gear?"
The answer is: To nobody's interest. Customers are in trouble, the brand gets destroyed, the sources will have lots of trouble as well, business suffer and so on.
Definitely, for us as a source, was a huge hammer applied in the chest because we really work a lot to provide quality gear and services to the community. Without any form of hypocrisy, I want to say that we really do appreciate each one of you and we, as a team, we've done our best to solve this situation in the best way we could.
We are completely disappointed by Ultima and Beligas production team and we won't allow for some idiots to destroy our hard work. Cause I want to say it loud and clear - the guys who were in charge with the quality control on these brands are complete idiots. Even with the most recent changes, is hard to trust them again.
That being said, we will continue our support to the community because we stand with you guys. Feel free to reach out to us and we'll kindly assist you to make sure you get a favorable resolution. We are not forcing anyone to use the products if this feel uncomfortable.
We'll get the lab test results from Janoshik in a couple of days.
@Osgear You guys sold me all bad gear , send me a refund me for contaminated NPP then I post a review on how I felt about it “ which that what reviews are for correct ?” And are we not entitled to our own opinions ? Then you guys give me a refund then delete my account …. You guys sold ME 226$ of BS then deleted my account. You guys are horrible … you guys told about 20’other people that had the same NPP it was crashed a fine to use …… which coulda killed someone’s they injected what was in that , you guys are susspect
The NPP is subject for replacement, we have said that publicly.
Your account was not deleted. Please open a ticket on the website in this regard.
So I have replacements on way that I do not want to use are you saying I could have got a different brand?
The replacements are getting tested by Janoshilk. We recommend to wait for the lab tests results, at least.
When do you expect to have the results for Ultima Janoshik results?
Its a nice sentiment, but the problem is right here:
“we really work a lot to provide quality gear and services to the community”
What this whole thing exposed is that you, PMroids, steroidify, naps, etc actually do jack shit to provide quality gear to the community. You pass on gear that the community tests for you, while the community assumes all of the cost and burden of risk.
This is in contrast to smaller suppliers who provide new testing each time they restock, some who even test the stock they purchase from the larger brands, and some who have organized their own user groups for testing. These guys are actually providing what you dishonestly claim.
For the fucking life of me, I can’t imagine why anyone would go back to these places without some serious changes. Hell, you haven’t even followed thru on testing all your stock and releasing those tests here. The only supplier I’ve seen actively realize they need to make a major change and implement it is Steroidify, who is already releasing batches of testing. Good for them.
I have to point out that there is no problem with that statement. I think is pretty obvious that a 12+ years presence on Eroids is a strong proof for that.
This is your interpretation and you are free to buy from any source you want. If you buy fake Paracetamol from a brand and it doesn't reduce your fever, you would go to the pharmacy to blame them why was not tested? The pharmacy trusted that in that box is Paracetamol. All business relations worldwide are being based on trust, otherwise there would be no business at all.
We have done major changes in quality control and we've also ordered the testing of the full Ultima line to see what exactly was sold to clients. The results are expected within a couple of days.
The example of paracetamol from the pharmacy is another disingenuous one.
Pharmacies are regulated by the government, whom we all pay with our tax dollars to assure that those products are in fact tested and genuine before they hit the shelves. Penalties are highly punitive and include damages directly to consumers harmed by a violation of that trust. There is trust, yes, but there is also verify. Pharmacies cannot skip the latter step, you can, and did.
Don’t get me wrong. If y’all can turn shit around and provide reliable testing, and demonstrate that you are an actual value added middle man in this market, you could win my business again. But claiming that you were a victim here isn’t really moving that needle.
It was an example of trust-based situation between you - the consumer - and the business.
And we have never assumed or claimed that we are victims. We have explained how things work for a better understanding of the situation and to avoid an often made confusion between a source and a manufacturer and the lack of information about the way a relation between these two entities work.
I dont care if they say they made a new batch, their batches didn't mean anything they just slapped vials into pre printed boxes. I would not trust this shit at all. Never again will you see me use Ultima, Beligas, or Nakon.
Amen
I have same batch and mine look more clear
Did they even do Janos on the new batch?
They should have tested it before even sending out replacements its nonsense. So you send out to customers and say wait before using! Lol
I highly doubt it even if they did I'd be extremely skeptical if the reports are even legit jano is always backed up so regarding the time frame for the fuck up and testing of the new samples being sent and tested it wouldn't add up...
I thought OSGear and some others where sending out stuff for testing(somewhere on this forum they mentioned it) and that was 2 weeks ago, I would hope that they post the results of those test like they said they would to help out people who are got the replacement orders.
Multiple suppliers kept saying that MTO09872 of Test Enan was gtg. When I compared it to the bunk batch of MTO09879 Test Cyp it didn't look like clear water but it doesnt look as dark as the Test Enan you have.
Depending on the results of those tests we may get to see them lol
Guessing if the tests don't go well we won't ever know. And that's the thing, like at this point are we supposed to trust them for truthful labs?
Can't trust a batch on a box when it's been made clear they're just tossing bottles in random boxes. Means nothing! There are several labs I will never use again due to lying. Some are still very popular, but the fact they've lied about certain shit tells me never to trust them again because in a serious situation you can't trust a word out their mouth aka the "Golden Testos" bullshit. Huge company, people love them, but I will never trust them again because of what they said.