I had exactly the same thing with Ultima last year, except this time it was trenbolone enanthate.
It was 100% the same appearance as yours, some kind of floating mass inside that wouldn’t dissolve, even when heating it. When I shook the vial it just became more cloudy, and then it would come back as a mass again.
I will never order from Ultima again, and I’m starting to doubt B..gas as well.
That is not crashed brother. That appears to be bacteria growing. I would trash that immediately and request a refund. Ultima is seriously dropping the ball!
They tell me it’s crashed. Then the beligas I got looked like damn water and I felt horrible then just seen someone post that the beligas cyp 200 was no good either . Spent 250$ a nothing worked or it was not good I still didn’t even take the top off of the NPP. They basically told me it’s crashed and burnt me they suck
I'm really sorry to hear that bro. I know the feeling and it's not ok. All we can do is keep moving forward and learn what we can from these experiences. You know who not to trust now in this situation so take that away from this and keep your eyes on your goals moving forward with that knowledge in mind. Crashed gear normally has shards or a kinda cloudiness, but when you heat it they should reconstitute. If there's still a kinda jellyfish looking mass floating around afterwards it is most likely bacteria. I would avoid these brands from here on and don't let it hold you back. Living in the past destroys the future my man.
Heres my theory when this happened, I saw it sat in New York for weeks. At the time it was an average of 18 degrees per day. So when the gear is shipped, and its winter, the trucks arent climate controlled. So the gear crashed bad from being basically frozen. NPP is sensitive I have noticed over time. It crashes and shards pretty easily. So it could have fucked with the properties a bit from temp change beimg so extreme.
I understand that. But I still would not use it . I’ve had crashed gear plenty of times and not a problem but with what happened I personally wouldn’t use any of their products. No issues with you as a source @Osgear and hate this has all happened
What happened to make you not use any of their products? 3 batches of oils have been found with no anabolics in them and will be replaced with good batches. That's all.
Yea that is enough for me to not use them. I just have lost trust in them. As I said @Osgear this is nothing against you or your services. Your a stand up source . I’ll step out I’m not trying to stir this pot. I’m a single opinion and don’t speak for others. So if everyone else is good with them that’s great. Just not for me. Thanks and wish everyone a good day
Not sure if that’s crashed or just plan bad.
That looks pretty bad.
Unfortunately I have a few different things from Ultima that test cyp, DHB, and Primo that give me some concern on legitimacy.
I don’t have the boxes anymore to look at the batch #s but doesn’t seem like anything but test c and e were bunk.
With what is going on with the ultima test I don't know if I would trust anything they are putting out right now without getting it tested. They admitted on their own site they used untested raws on several batches of test, I would assume they are probably doing it with other compounds too until proven otherwise.
Ronnie Coleman sperm!
WorstGeneticsI had exactly the same thing with Ultima last year, except this time it was trenbolone enanthate.
It was 100% the same appearance as yours, some kind of floating mass inside that wouldn’t dissolve, even when heating it. When I shook the vial it just became more cloudy, and then it would come back as a mass again.
I will never order from Ultima again, and I’m starting to doubt B..gas as well.
Don’t eat that peppah! (Sopranos reference)
That is not crashed brother. That appears to be bacteria growing. I would trash that immediately and request a refund. Ultima is seriously dropping the ball!
They tell me it’s crashed. Then the beligas I got looked like damn water and I felt horrible then just seen someone post that the beligas cyp 200 was no good either . Spent 250$ a nothing worked or it was not good I still didn’t even take the top off of the NPP. They basically told me it’s crashed and burnt me they suck
I'm really sorry to hear that bro. I know the feeling and it's not ok. All we can do is keep moving forward and learn what we can from these experiences. You know who not to trust now in this situation so take that away from this and keep your eyes on your goals moving forward with that knowledge in mind. Crashed gear normally has shards or a kinda cloudiness, but when you heat it they should reconstitute. If there's still a kinda jellyfish looking mass floating around afterwards it is most likely bacteria. I would avoid these brands from here on and don't let it hold you back. Living in the past destroys the future my man.
But is gear swearsssaas this is ok. Then if you look they just had a batch of beligas come back as fake.
Heres my theory when this happened, I saw it sat in New York for weeks. At the time it was an average of 18 degrees per day. So when the gear is shipped, and its winter, the trucks arent climate controlled. So the gear crashed bad from being basically frozen. NPP is sensitive I have noticed over time. It crashes and shards pretty easily. So it could have fucked with the properties a bit from temp change beimg so extreme.
Wouldn’t touch it especially after what’s happened. Not worth the risk
Only Test C and E were affected. There is nothing wrong with any other products.
Not true. The beligas is coming back no good now too …… shits not looking good
I understand that. But I still would not use it . I’ve had crashed gear plenty of times and not a problem but with what happened I personally wouldn’t use any of their products. No issues with you as a source @Osgear and hate this has all happened
What happened to make you not use any of their products? 3 batches of oils have been found with no anabolics in them and will be replaced with good batches. That's all.
Yea that is enough for me to not use them. I just have lost trust in them. As I said @Osgear this is nothing against you or your services. Your a stand up source . I’ll step out I’m not trying to stir this pot. I’m a single opinion and don’t speak for others. So if everyone else is good with them that’s great. Just not for me. Thanks and wish everyone a good day
They just sent bunk gear out a few times …. No biggy they won’t EVER do that again right? Ahhahahahahhah
It's crystallized. Please boil it longer and will dissolve or you can use a heating pad.
I boiled it about 10 times now it’s ain’t coming back
Not sure if that’s crashed or just plan bad.
That looks pretty bad.
Unfortunately I have a few different things from Ultima that test cyp, DHB, and Primo that give me some concern on legitimacy.
I don’t have the boxes anymore to look at the batch #s but doesn’t seem like anything but test c and e were bunk.
With what is going on with the ultima test I don't know if I would trust anything they are putting out right now without getting it tested. They admitted on their own site they used untested raws on several batches of test, I would assume they are probably doing it with other compounds too until proven otherwise.
Candle warmer. Get one
That doesn't look crashed. Looks like semen
Bull semen is good to go tho.....might be an upgrade.....The took "Raw Material" quite literally here lol
Ultima got the semen raws. Honest mistake
Heating pad for 15 min at a time till it's clear
This or a candle warmer I use this one for regular candles and for crashed gear!
https://a.co/d/0gYslvpx
$8
Jrihard89Bottler literally came in your NPP lord