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Picked a few things up from Titans during there recent promo. Took about 4 days and that included the weekend so really good TA.
Got some:
4- NPP/Test P blend
1 - Extreme NPP (200mg)
1 - 100mg NPP (freebie)
1 - tren a 100mg (ordered the Test E/Tren E 400 but got the tren a instead)

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Sebas26's picture

What you think about high dosage npp between highdose deca ?Because i have never taking more than 300 npp .

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Makwa's picture

I am not a huge fan of Deca, great bulker if it works for you, but it always seems to skyrocket my BP and I have to bail on cycle. I don't have that problem with NPP. Much less water retention on NPP and you can bang out a quick cycle of it without having to go 16+ wks like you would with Deca. If you are doing PCT, going to be easier to recover from also. I like NPP in that 400 - 500mg range. 150mg (M/W/F) works pretty good.

DeeMan's picture

So between both NPP and Deca would you say that the esters make the bigger difference when it comes to water retention than test cyp and test prop?

Makwa's picture

Esters are 100% the cause of differences with water retention in respect to test.

Sebas26's picture

Thank you for taking the time for this detailed answer! I had the same problem with deca, my blood got thick and I went to the hospital because I almost had a stroke. But I'm checking my blood more often now and will donate some blood if necessary.

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It was all that excess water retention from deca that really killed my BP. I get big but totally smooth out on it which is a look I don't care for. NPP i get big and full and still retain my definition and vascularity, which looks much better.

Sebas26's picture

I keep good form with npp . I'm getting a little fuller and strength is picking up a bit but I've only been doing 100mg M/W/F/ 300mg a week so far.And sometimes i throw in some dianabol in the cycle.

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DeeMan's picture

Mak that has definitely baffled me for awhile now. Why does Deca hold more water than NPP? It must be from slower sustained release from the Decanoate ester. Wonder if that allows more estrogen conversation than the short PP ester. It does in test cyp. Same probably applies. Those esters make a big difference man

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It definitely has something to do with the ester. Ment and NPP I stay dry (or drier) and deca I puff up. These are things we know for a fact:

Longer esters cause more water retention
Longer esters cause higher levels of estro
Longer esters cause higher retention of nitrogen (more anabolic)
Shorter esters cause higher peak plasma levels

So it makes sense to carry more water with Deca. The ester must not be the total story though, since I can pin test undec, and sust, and not have the same water retention I do with deca

DeeMan's picture

Yes you are definitely on to something when you mention test undec and sust causing lower water retention than Deca so I agree ester cant be the total story for water retention. Also what you stated above about long esters CANNOT be disputed at ALL. These are documented facts from studies. I remember reading them.

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Few times I ran some of his gear I really like it