+ 10 Titan HGH 8iu/d = 210 ng/mL
I’m beyond pissed. I’ve wasted thousands of dollars on this supplier, and worse, three months of my life thinking I was running legit HGH.
IGF-1 Bloods:
• All natural, never touched HGH: 85 ng/mL
• Ultima HGH, 6 IU split AM/PM: 316 ng/mL
• Kits4Less Titan HGH, 8 IU split AM/PM: 210 ng/mL
Are you kidding me?
The worst part? I still have multiple unopened boxes of Titan… and even more of Dragon too. Total waste.
I knew something was off. I’ve been pinning 8 IU/day, split just like I did with Ultima in the past, and I’ve had zero sides. Nothing. No water retention. No hand numbness. No morning stiffness. Nada.
Meanwhile, back on Ultima? My hands were going numb at just 4 IU/day. That’s what real GH feels like.
So now I’m stuck here, doing everything right, perfect timing, fasting, clean injections, full training, and for what? 210 IGF-1?!
That’s barely better than natty, not anywhere close to where I should be. I should be in the damn stratosphere, not chillin’ in the low 200s like a clown.
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For sure man, it’s the only way you know the shit you’re taking is legit.
I'm not saying this to be an ass or belittling. Legit question: are you reconstituting it correctly? If not could be taking less than you think. Just trying to help think of variables at play
Second, once you know you have the reconstitution down, try shooting 10iu 90 minutes before a blood draw. Except this time test for growth hormone. If you score around 25, or better, then you know it's legit and dosed correctly
Yes, I am reconstituting it correctly. I’m not playing any more monkey games with this bunk Titan HGH. I’ve moved on the Dragon GH from the same source. Will do a new set of bloods in a couple weeks on the same 8iu/d and see if this is any better.
Idk how much of the Titan you have left. But could be worth trying one time. All it takes is a one time jab of 10iu then go get gh serum bloods. That'll give you more concrete proof/evidence of legit or not. Aside from sending off to be tested.
Looking forward to your follow up with the dragon. I've been on the Supreme with positive results. Good luck man
Very well said. That is the way!
I'm sure they will pay to get it tested and make it right. I ran 2.5 IU of their snowcap and went from 190 to 390. I ran 2.5 of another brand and tested at 280. A lot can go into IGF, especially E2. My E2 was 32 for the higher test and 14 for the lower one. If your E2 changed that could also play into it to a large degree.
Man I’ve had the same experience with there snow cap ran 3 ius for 8 weeks barely bumped me up 23 points from baseline
3 i.u GH ain’t worth a fuck unless your running at least 5 wouldn’t even say 5 worth a fuck 6-8 + units is where your gonna see some bodybuilding results.Better sleep and some recovery on these baby doses my guy GH ain’t some magic on bullshit doses.
Yes that’s completely untrue. It may be your subjective experience, but don’t pass it off as an objective fact.
lol objective fact I’ll stand on that 3i.u is decent if that’s all you can afford but if you can afford more you should run more pretty much the 2nd best compound you could ever put into your body so yes facts!
Bro you said unless it’s 6-8 iu, you won’t see any bodybuilding results. Nobody said anything about affordability. Also, by your experience, how did you pinpoint it taking 6-8 iu to see results, and how do you know the results were a direct correlation of the growth? Did you ever do a lower protocol over an extended period of time with no success to gauge what you needed, or did you tirate up before that? I think it’s important to give accurate advice to ppl that are inexperienced and looking to trying something new. It’s great to share your personal experience, but we also can’t say it’s that way or no way.
I’m not going back and forth I said what i said keep running 3 I.u lmao have a nice day if you can’t afford more just say that haha
Oh damn @YRB on eroids can afford more GH than me. I need to rethink my life.
I have taken 2,3,4 ,5. I can stay at 2 and look better than you at 8
Could care less about your look or what you run lmao run 8 permanently you’ll be bigger it wasn’t a statement that was up for discussion TBH have a great day.
Why are you running only 2iu in your update photo post?
Hey champ. IGF1 502 on 5IU titan..
2.5 am 2.5pm. send it to get it tested they will pay for everything you spent thousands might as well spend another few hundred bucks and they will pay you back for it. They’re the real deal… they wouldn’t risk their business for fake HGH…
Let me know what happens.
Hey champ, glad you got a good batch. Mine is complete garbage.
Send it in. Test it.
To who, where? Could you provide more information.
Email kits4less go to the website you’ll see it on the bottom of their page. give them your order number and tell them what happened etc i’m sure they’ll take care of you and guide to how to get this done. Let me know what happens.
Samples sent in for testing. Will keep you all posted with results.
Well it has something in there since you’re above natural baseline…. 2.5x above.
Get with K4L and send it off for testing. They’ll pay for it, so it literally just costs you the time to package it up and drop it off somewhere. Just don’t ghost if it comes back exactly what it’s supposed to be.
I just think it’s funny how all the fan boys come out when bloods from their fav supplier come back different than their own experience. You all are sitting here acting like I’m fucked up and haven’t been in the game over a decade. It’s laughable.
The Titan HGH I’ve been using the last 75 days across two boxes is 100% under dosed. Period. I’m glad you all have some killer Titan and are getting great gains. I’m not.
Love Kits4less for their Tirzepatide and NAD+, but their growth reminds me of a time I was pinning 300mg/w test cyp and my bloods came back at ~400ng/dl after running it for several months, when any reputable test cyp at 250 puts me at 2,000 ng/dl.
At 8iu a day my IGF1 should be at least 500ng/mL. This isn’t really up for much debate.
Point me to one posted test on these forums where someone pulled a 500 (atleast) on 8 iu. Unless you can, there will always be a debate.
https://www.eroids.com/users/nick87
This guy has a 489 ng/dl score with less. There is a couple more with over 500 ng/dl I’ll find them after work. But good HGH will give you a great score like that.
Thanks Bill. Yes like I said to @Growtherino, I wasn’t implying nobody ever pulled a high score, It was aimed to the guy saying it wasn’t debatable and if he could provide receipts to back it up, which he did not. We’ve seen great IGF off of low dosages and low IGF off of high dosages, they are all subjective to the user and where their markers that can effect the score stand. It’s not fair to drag the sources name through the mud unless there is irrefutable evidence to back up the claim. Send it for testing on kits4less dime and let the results speak for themselves.
Therealist2018https://www.eroids.com/pics/lab-work-5
Not defending Bolt because he's being a dunce in these replies but our boy Benny pulled a 502 on 5IU (coincidentally on the same GH in question)
https://www.eroids.com/pics/igf1-tested-again-kit4less-titan-hgh
I wonder if it was the same batch as well. Not picking a side or anything but serum IGF is not always a perfect indicator. Some of the top guys in the space have shared their IGF looks like crap even on a load of serostim... Best way is to test serum GH and or hplc testing of the compound.
Thanks for the reply bro. Yea my comment to him was strictly to see if he had seen actual proof or just blowing smoke out of his ass. We both know how it goes around here. Speculation often passed on as facts.
Fanboy? Lol. Get off that pedestal and take a deep breath. The fact you’d rather argue than just sack up and use the opportunity to have it tested, FOR FREE, shows you’re just full of shit. Disgruntled because you spent a ton of money on gear and aren’t getting the results you expected or wanted? So naturally the gear is to blame? Time in the game doesn’t mean shit. Plenty of people out there doing the same wrong and stupid shit for decades too. Does that now make them smart, or correct, because they’ve been doing it for so long?
Been in the game that long and don’t even know about HPLC testing? Gtfoh.
I didn’t come at you any type of way and yet you chose to get your fucking panties all twisted up and retort as if you’re 100% certain it’s bunk or underdosed with just the basis of “feel” and one round of bloodwork. Your whole attitude is what is laughable.
You’re way too emotionally invested in defending a shitty product. I posted real bloodwork, 8 IU/day and my IGF-1 came back at 210. That’s not “feelings,” that’s straight numbers.
You jumped into my post like a professional crash out, ready to throw yourself in front of a moving train to defend some underdosed trash that doesn’t even pay you. If you’re not a paid shill, then you’re just doing free PR for bunk gear. Either way, that’s pathetic.
Nobody asked for your HPLC monologue. I’ve been a part of this community for over 13 years. I’ve seen every brand, every scam, every clown trying to talk over bloodwork with bro-science. I don’t need your approval to call out garbage gear. Take your fanboy energy somewhere else and move along.
Keep crying then. 13 years and nothing to show for it. Not even knowledge. You’re too stupid to even comprehend what I wrote and are just making up your own narrative as we go along. Enjoy the shitty gear, which id obviously the only reason for your shitty progress.
I’ve had amazing progress and it’s been a great journey all these years. But I’d suggest you lay off the gear take some time off man your temperament is shit. Anyway, good luck.
Brother, take a look in the mirror and reconsider how you're acting here. You act like one blood test for igf is the end all be all for the efficacy of the product. There are a lot of factors that can influence igf in bloodwork. Was your E2 tanked? Is your liver stressed? Did you reconstitute and store it correctly? If you want to come here and act like you have definitive proof, get the shit HPLC tested. That is the only way to genuinely prove what you are claiming. Without that there will always be doubt despite how sure of yourself you are. The reason you're getting so much flak isn't because people are simping for Kits, it's because you are being dodgy about getting an HPLC done on the product. You're so sure get that done and post it here. Nobody would argue with a jano showing it's bunk.
Keepin it real. People tend to forget that when they point a finger, they have 3 pointing back at them.
I told him yesterday to send it off. It’s is so simple. 1+1 =2 . my E2 was 28 when I took IGF1
Send it off to be tested and you could get your money back.
I didn’t know this was a thing, I’ve only ever done bloods — not the compounds themselves. Appreciated the heads up and will look into it.
Yeah man, no problem!
Ok, speak to K4L? This was your 1st time trying this lab and you spent thousands ? Isn’t that a little naive on your part ? Buy 1 or 2 kits maybe, then go from there ? I’m sure that will work it out with you, they a good amount good reviews …. Hope it works out,,,
Also there are many underlying issues when it comes to IGF scores and hgh….