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got all the test done from a lab here is the test e mass spec test.
now those are some serious lab stats!!! glad i ordered from you!!
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love it bro
hey little confused lol..so are these good results or no?
Yes. Very good.
Do you have all the lab results? all i need to see our is the verification of concentration and homogeneity, Neat Material Data and the full high performance liquid chromatography data... I could easily tell if the lab results are legit or not.. might clear the air for you guys...
MakaveliCD7PM Zewi bc he has all the info
Sooner or later we all get under the gun... just keep on pleasing where you can. Don't let the arguments snare you.
MakaveliCD7Thank u brother for those words of encouragement and support!!! It's nice to see another SRC appear with such kind words towards us.... Our goals are all the same in the end.... We're just trying to have integrity and respect as well help the brothers in the community
Yeah, I just keep waiting for that first blast upon me...and it is sure as rain coming...missing pack, broken glass, you name it.... can I really live up to my own expectations? "There but for the grace of god go I..."
AnonYou in recovery?
Been there, you can count on that... not so sure I would be an appropriate sponsor at this point in time though.
AnonHahha got a sponsor plus 8 years lol. I just saw the quote at the end of that comment and new you was like me.
MakaveliCD7Ur not alone ;)
AnonGood to know brother
MakaveliCD7Wise words brother and consider Zewi and I an ally if u ever need anything just hit us up brother.... Nice to have a friend
Thank you and good luck.
MakaveliCD7I think after all the extensive levels of testing we have gone thru at the request of the community and the assumed lab scientists of the site that we have provided enough proof and the credentials to validate the independent lab we used and the validity of the tests performed.... It's rather kinda of obvious that Zewi and I will not be able to satisfy the scoffers.... So we see now that the best thing to do is let the gear do the talking and let the community decide the truth.... This thread was meant for the good and went south for the worst with a basic mud slinging contest and to the mods we apologize bc that was not our intent... Zewi and I will keep our lab results on our site with links on our SI thread for the community to view if they want... We are not here to have a pissing contest with others just want to do the SRC thing and provide quality gear and customer service.... Sorry about the conflicts it started and this is a lesson well learned that we need to refrain from getting caught in these struggles and do our thing and let the gear speak.... Thank u guys for ur support and sorry for the controversy it started.... If u guys have any questions about EA please feel free to pm Zewi or me or post on our SI thread..... Enjoy ur weekend gentlemen
ZewiAnabolXThanks
Can't get much better. +1
angusCan you please explain what the graph that you posted are and what they represent? I recognize the third one as the 1H-NMR that identifies the substance, but IDK what the second one is, I'm sure it is the missing link to understanding how they came up with the 97+% purity.
ZewiAnabolX"I recognize the third one as the 1H-NMR that identifies the substance, " thats not an 1H-NMR thats not what a 1H-NMR looks like but here is the 1H-NMR . --these pics posted above are for Mass Spectrum (here is a great example of test p Certificate of Analysis shows what an HMNR would look like and a Mass spectrum graph would look like http://www.logical-standards.com/uploads/pdfs/english/CERT-LGCAMP0897.00...
our 1h-NMR of test e
angusOk, then I don't understand how the lab reached the percentage that they did. Can you walk me through it please?
ZewiAnabolXBuy all means if you dont not like our test please e-mail are call me and i'll give you the contact information to the lab, and you can ask any questions you want with them since it seems i cant satisfy you
ZewiAnabolXangusI did email you. You haven't responded.
ZewiAnabolXWell let me check my e-mail sir
ZewiAnabolXlean more about mass spec (https://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/virttxtjml/Spectrpy/MassSp...)
Sure lets take your Example :
Full Spectrum Testing: 10 people in a room, 2 blondes, 8 brunettes = 80% brunettes
HPLC Column testing: 10 People in a room, 2 blondes, 8 brunettes. 2 blondes are put in a different room and now = 100% brunettes.
Just like in your EXAMPLE: (Full Spectrum Testing) there are 10 people in the room but its mixed up with blonds and brunettes---and all you want to do is see how many brunettes are in the room well the only way to do that is count how many people there are and than count how many brunettes well there are 8 brunettes out of 10 people well that's 80%.. so out of 100% there is 8 so you get your 80%
than look at this which is posted above: this is mass spec its doing the same thing through mass spec testing keeping everything together and than saying separate everything that is not test e.. and what is left is 97.69% of test e.
1. A small sample is ionized, usually to cations by loss of an electron. The Ion Source
2. The ions are sorted and separated according to their mass and charge. The Mass Analyzer
3. The separated ions are then measured, and the results displayed on a chart. The Detector
angusI fully understand the concept hommie, that wasn't what I was asking.
ZewiAnabolXwell if you understand the concept do you know how to read a graph?? For HPLC
Dr. BannerWow this is quite funny... First of all I commend any source that gets their raws tested. This shows that they are spending to get the estimated purity of the powder. I have never attacked anyone on here or talked down another source so I do not see why the hostility is here. Bottom line... I'm getting everything of mine tested regardless of the lab, a mass spec test is a mass spec test. Why would I go through all the trouble of funding beaker and angus for lab tests when Im just faking the results anyways. Those of you on here that think that I have an alterior motive other than actually putting out a legitimate and stand out product, as I have are obviously the ones that are only doing it for the money. When people think of my brand they think of quality, consistency, and value. I get these test done so that we can make the gear AS DOSED. I hate that there are members on here that are so quick to call out other sources on here for what they see is unfair. My merge with Beaker is only the result of me proving a consistently stand up reputation and desire to better the quality of AAS. Hell, if you guys want we will even validate our claims with a third party lab outside of us.
AnonI have tried a lot of the products that Beaker has tested, posted and explained here on Eroids and had the good results from all but one product which happened to be a bad batch from the supplier and we all know that happens from time to time. In my opinion Beaker has developed an honest reputation without showing favoritism to any source or it's product. Also in my opinion he deserves to be paid for all that he has done.
AnonNo one is doubting you or saying your tests are fake. But saying Beaker is the only one who can test products on this site is no longer possible. The moment he decided he wanted a Beaker Brand he can no longer say he has zero monetary interest in these results. Very simple. And honestly I think ur vision is crazy. Ur pushing the limits in this game. Don't apologize for joining with Beaker Banner. It's visionary. But say beaker had joined with the number one. Would u still consider his Mass specs unbiased?
Dr. BannerI would simply find someone else that would test. Build his credibility with consistent testing and exposure. Anyone can build a name up. How do you think Beaker started?
AnonUr absolutely right. That's exactly what Z n Mak are trying to do. Sorry again for bringing u into this. It wasn't a reflection on ur business other than that Beaker has money on the line now. Again my apologies for the drama. Take care man and real talk ur breaking the mold.
AnonJust for the lazy fuckers who don't read Eroids. Tell me as a Src would u send ur gear to be tested by folks who are now the competition? U want unbiased testing and so do I. According to this public announcement do u still fell their testing is 100% pure and unbiased? Here's a copy n paste of that announcement:
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Banner Balboa 3 days ago
The Messiah of Gear hath returned to smote and destroy all the blasphemers and non-believers! All of you on the review board or those that have complained that I have ignored your email or pm this is directed towards you, I will be getting through all pms and emails by the end of tonight. If you do not have a response by tomorrow AM then send another. I hate that some of you feel like your above everyone else for a response. I WILL GET TO YOU! In other news, The promo/reopening is still set for the 14th for sure. I will post details as soon as I clear it through BFG. After the promo we will be closing down again for anther 2-3 weeks. We have been experiencing MAJOR delays in getting all the new stuff in. During this second reopening everyone will see the start of several new brands. Each will have special qualities, and made from different compounds so that no matter the preference I will be able to meet your demand. For example, one of the new brands will have a "Pharmaceutical" grade carrier. This particular carrier is thinner than GSO and CSO while still holding the particular compound in suspension. I GUARANTEE you will have never pinned something so smooth without a doubt in my mind. The pressed tabs "hopefully with custom stamps," will also be making their appearance. Also another BIG announcement, Beaker/Angus and I have been working on something huge! This project is still in its infant stages however it will happen. Beaker has been working with the doctor personally on a way to "cleanse" raw powder. This process will dissolve/filter out impurities in a way that the powder purity will be greater than 90%. That being said Beaker trusted me to deliver a "Beaker Brand" that will be PREMIUM quality. He came to me because He and the doctor believe in my business ethic and quality of the Hulk product. Only the best of the best raws will be used which will also be backed with rigorous lab tests. Beaker and I have agreed that there will not be another source, including pharmacies, that will be able to match our purity, quality, or price. Remember this is still in the infant stages and I will be posting updates as progress is made. So get ready ladies and gentlemen some of the most reputable members are joining together to deliver a top quality product for all of you guys! Good to be back everyone and I thank you all for the support while I have been away. ALSO! Score has dropped so if you have reviewed and not voted PLEASE DO!!! Thanks again everyone!
First I commend this Src for pushing the limits in creativity and vision. IMO if this announcement is true this Src deserves respect. But Beaker made this decision with clear mind and conscience. He decided he wanted to quit being the community scientist and to enter into the Src world. He can test his heart away but after this announcement You have to question any form of neutrality when he tests a competitors Samples . Only a fuckng idiot can't see the HUGE CONFILCT OF INTEREST!!!!!
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYou have no place to talks gs, stop getting involved in this SRC drama, last time I checked you ain't a SRC. As for the actually sources if you guys can't get along ill shut every last lab test you guys ever put up.
MakaveliCD7Understand bodybuilder.... If Zewi and I would have know this was going to turn into an all out war we would've never posted it.... We were just showing the. Community our independent lab results.... And I think from now on we will just post them on our SI thread.... Sry for the conflict mods and other gentlemen on the thread
AnonAlright brother I'm over it.
Dr. BannerI agree
AnonSorry I drug u into this Banner. Seriously I was only doing it because of everyone saying Beakers Mass Spec is the only relevant test allowed on eroids. My apologies Banner.
AnonAm I the only one seeing a problem with other Src's posting on a rivals Labs? Total conflict of interest. Seems like its always the same fucking guy too!! Hey Zewi n C maybe it's time you guys stop being nice and call this what it is. Call a fucking spade a fucking spade. U guys are minding ur own fucking business not attacking one single rival Src. Not posting on their labs not posting misconstrued questions.
It's obvious what's going on to anyone with half a brain and enough time to comb every page to see the real picture going on here.
MakaveliCD7I agree Carlos it's time for Zewi and I to unleash the beast and they not gonna like what they find that we know either.... We were trying to be good guys but the push and shoves and blatant low blows so get ready to be put on blast fellas and u know who ur are and the community and other SRCs need to know just what is going on here!!! It's go time!!!
AnonWell brother I wouldn't risk your business playing cheap games with these guys. I already know what will happen. You guys will defend urself and then get banned. I just would call them out for blatant Src conflict of interest. If they really want to express their opinions like a normal member them let them abandon their Src tag. As long as they have an Src tag they have no right to create conflict on your labs. Especially when the tester he wants u to send samples to has his own line of oils coming out according to a rival Src's Supplier Introduction page. What's even fucking crazier to me is Ares still thinks sending gear to his arch nemesis is a good idea?!?!?! Are u tucking kidding me? Sorry but the moment that announcement was made it ruined their neutrality. IMO you'd have to be crazy for any Src to send their gear to be tested by the competition!!!
RustyhookerThe numbers are impressive! Isn't column testing flawed and always comes out super high purity? And gas spec just identifies it as being there...(dosage). So purity isn't really correct?
MakaveliCD7Here u need to study before u jump in here my friend...
(HPLC) High-performance liquid chromatography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-performance_liquid_chromatography
(NMR) Nuclear magnetic resonance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_NMR http://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/VirtTxtJml/Spectrpy/nmr/nmr... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance
(GC-MS) Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_chromatography%E2%80%93mass_spectrometry http://www.unsolvedmysteries.oregonstate.edu/MS_05
RustyhookerThats why I'm asking.
Column test top line is always flawed.. And nmr test shows only "conform". What will the oils come out at with column test?
MakaveliCD7.
RustyhookerNwvermind. If its strong n clean it'll move like hotcakes.
silver389The ultimate test is pinning a product. This product is exactly what is claimed. Best test I've ran in recent memory.
Very nice guys!