+ 1 Serum Testing
There are 3 reasons for this serum test.
1 I am a big advocate of testing.The standards that I use and that is suggested by many eroids users is 10 iu intramuscular 3.5 hours before labs and fasting.In my experience,sub q does not test as high...fasting is valid and numbers will vary in that 3-4 hour window.I like to get as close as possible to 3.5..Now,a question that has come up is will you get congruent results from doing test with only 5 iu...SO if I had cut the amount In half would I have ended up with 17.6? Well guys,I personally don't think it works like that but I would like to here some opinions if you have them....You can put them down now if u like ...In 2 weeks I will be testing EXACTLY under the same protocol only I will be cutting dose in half to see....I will keep this pinpoint accurate...I know some aren't keen on the ideal of injecting 10 iu....so hopefully this will help....Let me reemphasize 1 more thing.I firmly believe going I.M. is important..No science to back it up,although there may be some.I just speak from observing my own experience
2 wanted to check quality.Serum doesn't necessarily confirm HGH but it is certainly an indicator.These numbers leave it hard to believe it is anything else other then HGH.The amount of peptides that would be needed to produce a serum this high would have definite side effects that I did not get .Just a small dose of peptides will give me a head rush along with a couple other sides...warmness increasd bp or heartrate...sleepiness ....etc
3 I just finished up another generic.The results were none.....and iGF1 came back as if I weren't using GH..I consider the fact that perhaps there was something going on with me and the way I was reacting or not reacting.Well,I did ok with the serum test.This leads me to believe I am reacting just fine.But IDK for sure.
I personally do NOT advocate that people use anything other then Pharmagrade HGH...There are many risks we take with generics ranging from poor quality to health risks...Its is very difficult to find good generics ,however,as of recent the scene looks much more hopeful....It is still a difficult game and the only way to have a chance is through constant testing and a good protocol of testing... HGH serum only will NOT confirm HGH..I am not stating that it does by any means.However I do feel it a very useful tool in at least discrediting GH and assisting in measuring some degree of legitimacy.
THESE LABS WERE NOT FROM AN EROIDS VERIFIED SOURCE AND ARE IN NO WAY INTENDED TO REPRESENT ANY SOURCE OR THE QUALITY OF THEIR PRODUCTS NOR DO I ADVISE EVER SHOPPING AT AN UNVERIFIED SOURCE.THIS WAS CONDUCTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR TESTING PROTOCOL AND FOR MY PERSONAL RESPONSE
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bigwillyim not a big testing guy. at least not the normal for eriods type anyway. im more of a mirror guy, if im comfortable with the source im using ill know what I have in a few weeks, then ill go from there. but I do see the logic in the blood serum testing if at least ya get a good serum ya know ya have something worth going ahead with.
unrelated......but it seems our lil Chinese friends are putting out a decent product here of late. thx bro
Once the source gets verified... I guess that's when the real fun begins with this brand.
Check out the 'About' on that site. Looks like Dr. Lin's making those too. LOL...it seems they forgot to delete some of the "HY@E" wording also. Awwww Man....it's just so funny it's sad. Them Chins are laughing their asses off!
This is the same source that posted he received 3 separate samples from 3 separate sources and chose the one that had the highest GH Serum test. WOW. Quality control. So now your source has a source and so on...."Official Reseller?"
I'm sure they will be as consistent and "pure" as any other certified "Chin er ix" brand.
I did see that wording and the reference to the fabled Dr. Lin. I was not aware that the source claimed to evaluate 3 different GH suppliers ...
But hear me out... if Karl has nailed growth production down in Israel and is offering pretty competitive pricing for what APPEARS to be legitimate product....
Why couldn't the Chinese produce comparable product even at a lower cost?
Now is it Pharma? of course not.
Oh no no.....don't get me wong....I mean wrong. I'm on the ChinaMans GH now.....but mine DID come from "Dr. (J)Lin". =)
It's just that these guys go through so much trouble to create a "legit" type of "reseller" image with "authentic codes" (So Sneaky) when all the while he's a source buying from another (3) sources who got the GH from?.....Official Reseller of Blue Tops with a code?
I get a visual of chinamen in black trench coats on the street corners of Zhongshan with bags of GH....psssssst...hey....got dat GH Mane. What you need....10ius?
I'm sure what was tested is as pure as the Virgin Mary though
I personally think that if you cut your dose in half the serum reading will be lower than your reading of 35.2 to say it would be 17.6 on the money would just be foolish lol. As many things come into effect that could change that number a little as you know. I think to get a good grasp on it would be tough to say the least. As im sure to repeat the same testing environment 100% is slim to say the least. But I do 100% think that if you inject less your number comes in less kind of common sense and has also been proven medically. But to say it would come in at exactly half of 35.2 is quite a long shot as there are way too many variables that come into play. Works the same way with bloods pulled while on test , many variables come into play. It would be like saying if injecting pharma grade test at 500 a week would get x amount across the board and its like that for everyone. Which we all know is incorrect. The smaller the dose the smaller the reading, as the human body isn't an hplc machine it will be in the ball park of half.
Don't Pharmaceutical Companies like Lilly use GH Serum testing to test their products?.....maybe it was my endocrinologist?......or was it my HRT Clinic??
Oh I know....it's my ChinerX GH supplier pushing his unregulated GH product that "promotes" GH Serum testing. High score winwins
Those results look "heavenly" by the way Jin
=)
Jins infamous quote:
I think the FDA would think different
WaaaaDaaaFuuuu?
lmfao
i see you two are having your 'ol circle jerk again lol
Nice one!
I know how you like to read and research so pardon my ignorance here. Can you tell what raises Testosterone Serum? Any relation to GH Serum?
lol! I couldn't resist.
I'm not sure if I follow your question correctly... are you asking what raises testosterone levels in the physiological sense and if it is related to GH? Or testing methodology and how testosterone and GH serums are measured (e.g. LC/MS, immunoassay)
Hmmm....let's see....what would it take for a LabCorp Testosterone Serum test to show elevation?
Is this a riddle? I'll play along....
what level of elevation? are we talking supraphysiological levels? In that case exogenous administration would certainty achieve that objective
Lol....no riddle
What will show Testosterone Serum elevation.....injecting:
Test P
Test C
Test E
Sust
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Sure?
Riddle? No way Jose
lol ,,, No I mean sure... injecting any esterfied or non-esterfied testosterone would certainly increase serum elevation
So would injecting any variation of human growth hormone increase GH Serum levels on a LabCorp test?
So when trying to check the legitimacy of a GH product by way of human blood test, you can do this by checking for elevated igf1 initially, correct? Sinve serum can be elevated with one injection so can IGF1, correct? So If I were to buy ine of these kits and test it on myself, the second day of use I could test igf1 rather than serum? I did see the post where your IGF1 was elevated from a single injection.
I'm just trying to learn and be sure I am understanding correctly.
There's an actual Medical Study (Not BBing Bro Science) that uses both IGF-1 and IGFBP3 to compare the effectiveness of one FDA product to another.
Now will this show if you have legit GH. Who know's. I don't. There's just no real testing of counterfeit products using blood work. I'm not a fan of Big Pharma rules....but it would seem since they do not approve of an "off" product for (A)GHD then there must be a good reason.
I'm really starting to understand the point your trying to make now, I will admit initially I thought it was a debate over testing procedures but it's not. And no matter how you look at it you can't compare apples to oranges, you have to compare the like. The that last statement made it pretty clear and easy to understand. We are using methods to validate a generic GH (Apple) which are meant to be used on an Pharma products or to determine (A)GHD and the Pharma products effectiveness (Orange).
Now if the generic were mass speced first and found to be a Human HGH product, then these tests would be valid, Correct?
Man I really need to work on my explanation eh?!
It all makes sense to me!
Sometimes I think the vague "Blood Work Protocol" was made up by "Chin Air Rix" GH Sources
Especially injecting a whole vial (which I've done) to determine if your GH is legit
I'll just stick to "approved GH" and bypass the whole testing protocols
In all honesty... I cannot speak towards the spectrum of immunoassay used by LabCorp and its cross-reactivity rates to other variants and to what degree other variations would register as the 22kDa isomer.
Another interesting question would be does LabCorp's test also register 20kDa (GH2) ? Which is known to increase IGF which possibly lead to more anabolic benefit.
I couldn't speak towards any of this with any authority... same going for the safety of using rHGH variants not approved or researched by the medical field. You can lump the flavor of the week research peptide stack in as well.
The question is what are we all really putting in our bodies? Does anyone truly know the potential mutations we face when running trenbolone?
The debate on rHGH is a valid one but this whole site is running on every variant of anabolic steroid hormone and performance related peptide hormone with little or to no regard. If the rHGH variant is signaling for IGF1 synthesis (by the liver) then at least its performing as a rHGH mimic, something that other known (GHRP/GHRH) peptide hormones struggle to do at even higher doses... I take that as a good sign... I don't see why this particular product should be under such dismissive scrutiny.
20-kD-HGH (176) 20,270DA would be endogenous GH? So it would also show on the LabCorp GH Serum test. That what I'm assuming (thinking). LabCorp is a vague test
Not true. I test and research. =)
This isn't about this particular product tested.
Here's an example of 2 Counterfeit (Generic) Chinese GH products. 3 variations present.
22,411,4DA
22,145,2DA
22,079 DA
Raises IGF-1 and GH Serum but wouldn't be prescribed for therapeutic reasons even in China. Somatropin 22,125 DA
Lots of new members coming on here. Just hate to see them jumping on a product because of a vague GH Serum Test (Doesn't pinpoint Somatropin 22,125 DA) ya know?
Not sure what the long/short term use of these variation are (good...bad?) But some of those BloatTropins.....I mean RiPTropins tested similar. Lots of sides with those I heard.
Then members injecting an entire vial (this actually will raise IGF-1 with one SubQ injection) and then waiting 3.5hrs for the "peak"
What exactly is that "proving"?
I just go in and test my IGF-1 for my prescription HGH. Doc never required me to inject an entire vial of Omnitrope.
NEVER has the Doc used GH Serum for my prescription
Is it only about IGF-1.....or is IGF-1 used as an indicator for medical purposes when using FDA approved HGH
I'm trying to understand so forgive me if this is a stupid question.
So does this suggest that a human can get an elevated gh serum test from a product ment for ,or extracted from something other than a human, and would still show as elevated serum levels on a human test but not have the same effects on a human as an actual product made for a human?
Jigga Waah??
The counterfeit results are just off. Not identical to Human 22-kD-HGH (Human Growth Hormone) These products are made for black market so they are not regulated.
Injecting an off product will elevate a LabCorp GH Serum test. The test is vague and doesn't pinpoint Somatropin 22,125DA...similar to a Testosterone Serum (I'm assuming)
As far as health concerns, benefits or non-benefits....I dunno
They just wouldn't be approved for prescription (Therapeutic Purposes) So...you can make your own decision.
Jigga Who, LMFAO!
I can't blow up the doc you posted, its hard to read. I thought it was suggesting that generics we are taking could be meant for other species but still show elevated GH Serum if injected by a human on a Labcorp test.
Oh like cadavers....no....the test results show a synthetic product that isn't identical to Human Growth Hormone (22,125DA)
I'm not saying that all the black market GH is what these test results show......but...none of this is tested or regulated....well tested yea...but it seems the sources selling these products like using their customers as guinea pigs with blood work and not testing the actual product before selling.
+1 for taking the time to do this. Fr sent....i think ik whis gh this is.
Grays?
You put a hashtag in front of the text and makes it red.
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