+ 9 RESPECT THE TREN!!!
Just wanted to share my results with you guys, I already got in touch with some knowledgeable people in here, and I will be doing more testing to get back on track, this result is after 8 weeks of my PCT (all pharma but the clomid from Balkan) regular 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 Nolva and Clomid with a week of 3 shots of hcg (1500iu each) before the pct protocol,Pharma aromasin was used on PCT too 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25.
Obviously Tren is a powerful substance that can shut you down hard, maybe I needed it more time to let the tren clear before my PCT, my cycle was 500mg of tren e a week with 250mg of test e for 10 weeks, some proviron at 25mg at night for like 8 weeks and winny 50mg last 3 weeks, and a taper with test p 50mg eod.
So here it is, I need more time to recover, I will use this time to focus on training and diet, so when I am fully recovered it will be show time :-) be safe guys.
Pharma aromasin was used on PCT too 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Edit: still shut down, even tried triptorelin (top peptide company) bunk, time for a new power PCT.
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+1 for labs and for sharring what you said.. im gonna look into that place. It. Just might be an option for me to get labs
I just sent you all the info, the lab I used for this one is not working anymore :-(
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Where's your caber or prami for prolactin. If your prolactin levels are elevated it will keep you shut down. I even run caber or prami a couple weeks into pct just to make sure.
I was running pharma caber .5 a week for 11 weeks.
I will run a test for prolactin just to make sure if my E2 and LH / FSH are good, thanks for the input brother.
P2i2thow long did you wait after your pin to start PCT? just think usually they say 14-18 days after last pin of enanthate ester before starting pct. But that is for test not tren! And enanthate has a half life of around 7.5 days. So after 7.5 you have 250mg of tren still in you. Then after 15 still 125. So if you listen to normal protocol you would be starting even though you still have 125mg of tren in you. After just over 3 weeks youll be down to about 62mg. Then a month in finally down to 30 or so which is basically nothing. Given that tren shuts us down much harder than test id personally wait and would have done a 3 week prop taper after i stopped the tren before starting pct. Otherwise if you only waited the two weeks like regular protocol says then there is still 125mg of tren in you wich is still shutting you down while you fight to restart. So almost counterproductive really. also I really wish this reflected your LH and FSH levels. we can tell a lot more with those numbers in correlation with your testosterone number. basic moral to this is we must treat tren differently than test when it comes to timing of our PCT's and a lot of people don't realize that. I would always taper for a few weeks when running tren E before pct. I would do an ALL PHARMA pct again. Good luck bro! let us know how it goes and what you decide to do +
I waited 1 week after last shot to start 2 weeks taper with the test p, then I did that one week of hcg and then I started my PCT so it was 4 weeks after last pin, I just wasn't expecting my testosterone levels to be this low after 8 weeks, but, hey it is what it is, and yes LH and FSH and E2 tests are coming, in this website you have to pay for them separately but can't complain much can we?, thanks for stopping by brother.
P2i2tAlright, sounds like no worries with timing then.and no we can't complain! This is a hidden gem.well like I said I would try a rekick unless we find out it is something else once your other tests come back.good luck my man
Thank you man, maybe I was supposed to wait one more week, definitely something to think about it, thanks again brother and enjoy this lab while it last lol
P2i2tWow! I live in one of the states its "illegal" to test so for every one of my blood tests I literally drive out of state 2 hours each way to get them done.just went to the site and realized there is literally a lab right in my own town! This makes me super happy but also super pissed off at the same time that I've been driving so far for nothing lmao! my question now is are the testosterone tests lc/ms/ms? because it does not say on there. For instance it says free (direct) and total testosterone. No other details. but thank you bro if they are LC / MS / MS then you just saved me a headache
Yes it is brother, total test is LC/MS/M(it is a t the bottom of my test) now the one with free test I don't know if it is the same, I think there is only one way to find out, or you can call them, their customer service is very good, good luck bro, ohh and by the way the credit goes to RomanGod, he discovered this lab, I got a quest lab only a few blocks from my house
How the hell did you get a blood test in NY?
Wait hold on... You used HCG during your pct?
Nothing wrong with using HcG during pct.
What is your opinion on that?
During pct, Hcg supresses natural LH and FSH production, making recovery harder. It's fine on cycle or right before pct though. The point of pct is to restore natural LH and FSH levels, which the HCG sort of counters.
I beg to differ sir please follow the link for my explanation
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/lets-stop-th...
Nicely done!! +2
Nice explanation Getpumped99.
Hcg one week before PCT, and yes NY,go to the website I left on the description.