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I recently got my baseline igf levels checked before i started running 4iu of GH. I was a bit surprised to see my levels as low as they are (58 ng/ml). Fromnwhat i read, i know tren can affect igf as well as low e2 levels or elevated alt or ast. However my alt and ast are fairly normal and my estro is 109.

I am 32 years old and currently running 325mg/week of test e and 400mg/week of tren e, along with 1mg of caber/week. What might be causing my igf to be as low as it is?

23Sparta's picture

I was, and I was confused as to why. There was no reason for it. I read dudes post, stopped growth, didn’t change anything else and like several days later had a 13 bmp drop. You the shits 97% Jano tested or whatever, but what’s the other 3?

DeeMan's picture

I can't even begin to explain that. You wonder what's really going on.

23Sparta's picture

Yeah, I know. It’s not a study, but they’ll never do that study. So it’s kinda up to us. I wish that post got more attention. It’s like all of a sudden growth is cheap and in abundance. Lots of guys are jumping on that train for the first time or running high doses for the first time because we can afford to. Everyone is super concerned with IGF-1 testing, and yes that’s important. I mean I just think if that had got more attention, it’s really easy to check you RHR or many already know it. We could see if there’s really something do that. I know I just checked mine, I’ve been back on growth for two weeks or so, lower dose 3.33iu and my shits crept back up again 8bpm

DeeMan's picture

Wow

Toproll's picture

Hmm, ok. Well i wasnt on nolva at the time of these bloods and havent started running it yet. Maybe il hold off

Chad P's picture

Yes, @23Sparta can attest to the effects Nolvadex has on IGF

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23Sparta's picture

Nolva, definitely had a substantial negative impact on my IGF-1#’s. Stays in your system a long time as well. Terrible stuff if you’re gonna run growth for the purpose of high IGF-1 and hopefully inducing hyperplasia. Counter productive af

DeeMan's picture

Says he'll never use again