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All right guys been stalking around on here for months, after I got put in my place by greg after first joining! Needles to say i have learned a lot about cycling, also learned I was no where near ready to start my cycle. This website is a tremendous resource and I have honestly loved just reading and taking in all the info.

I have my cycle planned not gonna bore you with the layout bc its a basic beginner cycle. Decided to take rustys advice and do pre cycle blood work. Glad i did the results above show my elevated liver values. Took several weeks to get back to normal. Needless to say if i had not taken the advice and knowledge I've learned on this site who knows what would have happend if i decided to just start with no labs. Thanks guys love this place!

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maddogg's picture

So your liver values came back in line? Even the ast? Mine were up my doc wants me back in to retest. It hurt to lay on my right side. Is that the side your liver is on off hand?

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Yea man your liver is on the right side lol! Yea this was a few years ago. I had to go back a few times and they came back to normal after a few weeks. Had my yearly this last January and everything was fine. Man i would be worried if putting pressure on your liver hurt just from laying on that side ! Have u had a liver US?

maddogg's picture

She want to give me one. But now my side has stopped hurting as I have had no alcohol in going on a month. She wants to retest. So I just told her from an economic standpoint I will get the blood results and then go from there on the ultrasound. I feel better in general. Started using TUDCA. Was already using NAC ALA and milk thistle. Started using my injectable Glutathione and upped it to 400 mg per day. And picked up some SAM-e today on sale at Costco, might help with my joints too. I shall see. I would like to be able to run orals as I have quite a few of them. Some pretty harsh. I eat so much damn food to that I wonder if my liver take a little punishment from that like foie gras. I’m eating less more like a normal person with a lot of protein around 4000 cal,but my metabolism is fast and I burn a lot of calories at work. I’ve gone from 233 to 206 in 3 weeks, but that includes dropping creatine and some reduced water retention from dropping my test. Strength has remained surprisingly stable even with that weight loss.

Also I’ve taken cox-2 inhibitors for most of my adult life. My enzymes were always good until the last 6 months so I don’t know if that contributes a little too. I heard it was bad for your kidneys but my bloods involved with kidneys are all good. Everything is other than my liver.

Bjmoney85's picture

Yea man I would definitely consider the US, without revealing to much in open forum my background is knowledgeable of the human body. I saw on one of your other labs that you had a fasted glucose of 101? Are u diabetic or Pre diabetic? Asking bc it may be non alcoholic fatty liver disease idk just a guess. An US would tell you for sure.

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It wasn’t fasted completely as I wasn’t concerned with it. I was getting worried about pre diabetes because of all the HGH and iff1 I had used over the last 30 months and I noticed I would feel like shit after I ate and especially after something sugary like a McCafé beverage which I just chalked it up to a cheap mocha at first but it kept repeating. I felt like shot walking around Costco and I decided to get a Pepsi to see if it made me feel worse and it did. I was sweating and weak. I went to purchase a blood glucose monitor but it was a Sunday and pharmacy’s closed early in my town and Walgreens sells strips behind the pharmacy. Buy the time I had picked up everything I needed from Walmart it was 2:50 minutes after the Pepsi and I tested 96. But it stopped happening 2 weeks ago and I think it had something to do with the HGH igf1 and the sauce/ liver stress. I should test more 2 hours after I eat my Dr said

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Well man I hope it all works out bro!!! Health is first and foremost!!

Bjmoney85's picture

Yea I had to go back a few times and everything came back to normal, she blamed it on a virus or something. I did workout all the days leading up to that lab draw and since then I’ve found out that can elevate those values also. But i had my annual last week and all my labs were great so I guess I’ll never really know for sure.

Sam I Am's picture

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I think you’ll fit in well here...
Good luck

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Bjmoney85's picture

Thanks bro I was wondering where that karma came from lol!

DbolAndAll's picture

damn your ast is high, luckily you didn't start cause if you popped some dbol you would have killed your liver for sure

Bjmoney85's picture

I know man glad i decided to run the bloods!

Bjmoney85's picture

Got some Liv 52, Who knows if it worked. Doc re drew the labs 3 weeks later and they were all pretty much back to normal. She said i probably had a virus or something. But I'm glad I checked bc god knows what would have happened if i stressed my body even more INSTEAD of giving it time to heal.

Bjmoney85's picture

That's the only explanation she ever gave me, and i trust her.i posted the repeat lab i did 3 weeks later with her explanation!

ECinfidel's picture

Hepatitis can jack up your numbers and apparently they eventually level off. May wanna look into that as well.

Bjmoney85's picture

Not taking anything man, literally got a CBC and lipids at my GP to have a reference for a cycle i was planning. I don't drink or take any meds or supps.

Bjmoney85's picture

Ha, well hope i dont have the HEP lol but who knows!

ECinfidel's picture

Damn that's way above range. What was the issue and how did you fix it? Also, cheers for taking some sound advice. Alot of guys just plow ahead. +1 for testing/sharing.

Bjmoney85's picture

Thanks man!