posted Sun, 07/19/2015 - 14:19
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Got to have my Prami on hand for prolactin control and dopamine influx. Great stuff. 
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This stuff has me hugging the toilet. Lol... I can't take it. I'll pay the extra cash for caber just to keep the I'll sides away.
Sorry to hear that my dude. You just one of those individuals whom cannot stomach the Prami? Or you ramp up real quick? Looks like you would know what you are doing.
Even in small doses this stuff kills me.. Just can't take the stuff. At 1/4 mg.. I'm done for. Lol..
Sorry to hear that. Caber it is for you. My condolences!
Even at sensible low dose starting point and ramping up slow and conservative, the shit still hits me with crazy sides almost right out the gate. Seems to be a love hate thing with prami, some swear by it, others not so much.
It makes me have to get up and piss 6-8 times a night.
Is there a rational explanation between prolactin antagonists / HGH secretion / dopamine synthesis that would make you piss like a racehorse? I can say I get up twice in 7 hours since using Prami whereas 0 before...but never really thought much about it. Is your predicament unique?
I have the pharma tablets, i forget the mg off the top of my head, but when I started with just a quarter pill I was fine but after a week or so I ramped up to a half and my sleep went to shit.
Miraplex? Looking for donees on it? Wanted to try Pharma at some point. Think I found it at Naps so far.
Yeah, everyone is so different it never ceases to amaze me. It kind of re-emphasizes the need to bring in one compound at a time as the variable while keeping all other gear controlled to assess effects and sides. For me, Prami in 0.4mg doses twice daily is the sweet spot. However, I remember that working up started at 0.1mg doses and gradually increased over 2 to 4 weeks. The first time I dosed 0.25mg right out the gate got me feeling sick to my stomach for a few hours. I suppose if you were running straight HGH injections (I am not) caber would be an easy call for strictly prolactin control. Prami + Provi for me seems to give me the right combo day to day on cycle.
So u can use prami instead of caber while running tren?
I switched to prami
Its way less harsh on the body, immediate sides was induced sleep, lethargy . ..
Supposed gh boost of 200% while using it
How much time before bed do you allow for Prami to kick in? From my research, I have found Prami's GH release to max out at 2 hours. So, I take an hour before bed with low insulin levels and get that 1 hour of sleep in to max out natural GH release in correlation with Prami GH release. I'm lean and my fingers feel like I have arthritis constantly, so those are fair signs. Or maybe I have arthritis? Hehe.
I don't have experience running tren. From what I have read, yes; however I do not believe Prami provides the same sexual well-being effects as Caber. I do know from research that Prami is the safer long-term drug and as shown From P2i2t, Prami has the better effect on IGF-1 and HGH production. I know little about caber other than I choose Prami just like I choose aromasin over Adex for long term effects on lipids and no e2 rebound. Same mindset.
That's what's up. I just started a tren cycle few weeks ago. Just noticed this morning I had lump in both nipples. So ima start caber anyday. Unless prami is better. Just don't know anything bout it. I'll do some research any try it out soon
They both do the same thing. You'll be able to start with a higher dose of caber to get those nips under control instead of ramping up with prami. Are you sure the lumps are from tren? Are you leaking at all? If you're running a decent dose of test with your tren it might be that causing the lumps which means you need to up your ai if its not prolactin related. It's two different types of gyno bud
yeh its gotta be from the tren. i been taking 6.whateverMG of aromasin ED. but im about to start taking 12.5mg ED. my nips have been fine until i started tren. i just switched from sus.5ml EOD to test cyp SUN and THURS. so im only running 200mg of cyp, unless it added to the sus i was running. i wish it was from test that way nolva would knock it out. i have PLENTY caber. but it was from a source that i dont really trust. at the time i did...but i was fooled. anyway i was gonna order pharma caber, but some unexpected fucked up shit happened and it hit my wallet...im talking i had to spend $2000 this weekend. its not all my money, but a good chunk...but no, no leaking. just bumps behind nips that i just noticed this morning. i guess i will bump up my AI for now and see if it helps. if not i will take the next step
12.5mg aromasin ED would be a logical place to start. Get bloods if you have the money...
I hate to say this but...I was just "going to say"...lumps sound like estriadol issues to me whereas nipple elongation and lactating sound like prolactin. I am thinking some serious suicidal aromatase inhibitors here at least simultaneously with the prolactin control.
I would start a low dose of both and get blood work to definitely know which one to dial in and watch. You could always drop whatever one you dont need. The "lumps" comment is what had me questioning how much test is being ran.
That would be for jimmycc there...no lumps for me...had the real deal surgery at age 17 and with no glands, true estrogen induced gynocomastia goes right out the window for me...best three grand ever spent as a minor. Lol. Back to the bloodwork: a full female hormone panel would tell jimmycc all he needs to know and dose! I am a fan of Walk-in Lab myself.
i got a hormone replacement place that run labs for like $200 but fuck i wish i knew of one that was cheaper
The only places I think of are walk-in and then mail. I can find a full female profile for 167. Not too shabby.
Good call. I don't know whether Prami or Caber is more effective in controlling prolactin. Other than that, totally a personal preference. Get those lumps under wraps, jimmycc!
P2i2tA lot of ppl are completely against prami due to the side effects but unfortunately most of them get the side effects from not ramping up properly and ruin their outlook on such a great compound forever. I was almost one of these people until I figured I would try round two with Pharma quality instead of UGL and do it properly. I did not receive one ill side effect. Now unfortunately I have enough Pharma caber on hand to last me until I grow old and die lol so I will be using this up instead of wasting it, but I can honestly say I prefer prami and the benefits of it over caber any day now.+
To me the side effects are nearly an afterthought. I once had side effects and that sickly feeling from quick ramp up. But after adjusting down and properly ramping over a couple weeks the results were far superior than without. Amazing how short-sighted some people can be although I do understand people react differently as well.
P2i2tCan't go wrong with that igf-1 increase either ;-) in larger doses caber actually has the ability to LOWER igf-1 levels.
Yup. Understood. What have you read in regards to long term daily usage of Prami? Pros and cons?
I love me some prami too, fat loss and libido goes through the roof. Great stuff!
Yup. I was running GHRP-2 and MOD for a while. For the price and the extra slin pins, I switched to 0.8mg daily (half before bed and half first thing in the morning on an empty stomach) and I get just as good GH pulse (I can tell by quality of sleep and tingly fingers) as the peptides for less money and also less sub q pinning (not a big deal just annoying amidst all the IM pinning for the gear). Anyway, Bluesky is a great value and legit and their Prami does the body some good.