+ 1 PHARMACOM Labmax FAIL - TEST P
Not blaming 101 at all. I've tested NPP aswell from BasicStereo (official Pharmacom store) and it failed aswell, I'll upload it soon.
So Vial A was suppose to turn light green then eventually to orange. Vial B was suppose to turn a light yellow/orange. The first pic was taken 2 seconds after I put in the drop of Pharmacom Test P and both vials turned orange/dark orange straight away. I waited longer and took another pic, colours just got darker after one minute. In the UV light test its suppose to be blue-greenish fluorescence if it's Test P, it had NO Fluorescence at all!!
Like I said, I've tested some Pharmacom NPP which o bought from BasicStereo and it failed aswell. However I tested Provironos from Pharmacom and it was legit. Photos will follow over the next few days
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I have tried the Pharmacom test prop from 101 fitness pharma, 100mg ED, it gave me some bad pip BUT even after a few days i felt it pretty strong. Sweating like a pig on it as well (Probably tren ha ha)
The code checked out on the website as well...
OK well not sure whether I put too much belief into labmax alone most of the time, although I have a kit and use it here and there, but one thing we all know is that @enhancedlife is a ding bat and fan boy so take it fwiw
Hi tallandswole
Why are you talking about my dick?
Hahahaha boom!
I've only heard great things about PC but def interested in your results... should be all good
Just uploaded my NPP testing
https://www.eroids.com/pics/pharmacom-npp-failed-labmax-same-colour-as-t...
Why are people not buying this?
Because people are so ignorant and think its impossible that the lab that they love so much and is the best lab out there can actually have underdosed or contamination/mixed oils. You doubters just need to open your mind, look at https://thinksteroids.com/community/forums/steroid-lab-testing.56/ There are tonnes and tonnes of bloodwork that show Pharmacom to be underdosed at times, also to be correct dosed aswell at times, and also Labmax's that come back negative.
I just looked back at my pictures and the NPP test and the Test P test for Pharmacom came back the EXACT same colours in Vial A and B! Like wtf. Maybe they contaminate it with something or the raws are shit, i dont know. Im gonna bin my NPP and Test P, i dont want to put something in my body that im not confident on. Ill keep the tren and proviron from PC though cos they came back good on my Labmax. My point is, people need to stop bandwagoning and open their eyes.
King, did you move forward with the NPP? Same thing happened to me. Ordered NPP from them, and the 'check code' was legit. However, labmax returned ZERO fluorescence. Vial B was a tad bit greenish with normal light and UV light together. However UV only there was no fluorescence, at least not like the one on labmax site for NPP. Gear was crashed when I got it, so I know chemical is in there... Reconstituted well with a little heat.
Npp crashes at higher than 100mg ive seen.
but, the npp I was using (not this source) came back as npp but 77% or so. Wtf?
sorry dude, but i don't really agree with you. npp doesn't have to crash at more than 100mg. in fact you can make npp without EO at 150mg holding fine, and if you use a little bit of EO, for sure it will not crash
Have u tested npp raws that's 98% or higher?
I have with several companies and this has been the case (with no EO)
I'm still deciding to be honest, I might try one vial but I know there's something wrong with the PC NPP cos it had the same colour on my Labmax as the Test P. I'll probably not use it cos I don't even trust what is inside the vial. What will you do?
I start 10wk cycle next week. 400NPP/wk and 400 or 500TestCyp/wk. I'll let you know how it goes for me. Not sure what to expect. First time running nandrolone of any sort. Only done a few test only cycles. I bought too much to toss it all, on a hunch that it might not be legit NPP. This is the only other reference I've been comparing to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMgAMwCFF-0
I never got the green for Vial A, just dark orange, then orange-brown, then brown. Vial B stayed orange longer and I could eventually see a hint of matte green with UV light. I used 2 A/B kits on 2 separate vials... same results for each vial.
Guess if my lean mass increases, and BF% drops in first few weeks it should be legit nandro pp right? Assuming 'lean-bulk' diet.
Yeah I think a clear indicator if it's got a NPP in it is your joints will feel great compared to before, that should be clear in the first two weeks or so.
Wow
Since everyone thinks my results are wrong. Im gonna go ahead with my original plan and use the Pharmacom NPP and Test P i have and use them in my upcoming cycle. 100mg Test P and 150mg NPP EOD, after 2 weeks ill get my total test and prolactin checked and ill upload my results. Ill be happy if my Labmax test is wrong and the gear gives me good blood results cos then that means i didnt waste my money on my PC gear. If the results come back bad then ill be seriously pissed off
you should be alright man, I think there's too many variables , cross contamination , carrier oils /solvents etc... You could try getting your prolactin levels checked in a few weeks time to see if they go up from npp...
Mine skyrockets from 600mg a week
I really do hope it's fine bro, I've always heard such good things about PC
Balkan test prop @ 800mg had my testosterone at 190 nmol/L
And free test at 8300 pmol/l
If you run blood tests I wouldn't mind seeing your result...
Keep in touch bro
Im gonna run the Pharmacom NPP and Test P ive got bro, however ill only do Test P at 100mg EOD cos i get bad Test sides when i go higher. Ill upload my bloods after 2 weeks. Fingers crossed it comes back good. If not, ill be on a rampage!
RustyhookerYou run npp higher than test?
Yeah I'm gonna give it a try, last cycle I did test 1.5x more than the npp and I had bad acne and some balding so gonna try low test high npp with proviron, caber and aromasin.
However I'm not sure if I'll run Pharmacom now, I just looked back at my pictures and my npp and test p tests resulted in the exact SAME colors, I seriously cannot be bothered with putting something in my body that I'm not confident on, id rather bin it and use my alpha pharma instead.
AnonI would never run Nandrolone higher than test.. I've done it, long time ago and it was just not a pleasant cycle
It was actually a situation where my nandrolone was dosed higher than my test by the ml and I just went with it.. Never again
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/labmax-pharmacom-test-p.1343...
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/pharmacom-test-propionate-la...
Two labmax's with fails for Pharmacom Test P, maybe its the combo of ingredients that PC uses that results in a fail for Test P and a pass for Tren A, there are plenty more on the net aswell. Just open your minds fellas, thats all
I just tested the Pharmacom Tren A i got from Basicstereo, it came back Positive thankfully. Colours were spot on and fluorescence was exact.
Nope don't buy this
Good for you mate, you can also check other labmax tests on Pharmacom Test P and NPP and im not the only one with fails. Im just showing the results i got.
bbondsX2
I only trust blood work and simec now
If you only trust Bloodwork, check out https://thinksteroids.com/community/forums/steroid-lab-testing.56/ Plenty of blood work on Pharmacom gear, some are underdosed, some question if the NPP is really just Test maybe, have a good look
You're speaking in absolutes. Not everyone registers the same test levels. Too many variables. However, what I do know is that PC is legit as I have used them for 3 years now
bbondsI agree bro.
I don't even know why I get wrapped up in stupid threads like this. After you've been in the game a while you don't need a damn lab max test you know within a week if your shit is real and quality or the opposite
Mate your not too smart are you? Yeah u might tell in a week if u got the intended compound but how do u know if it's not contaminated? Like I said, I'm just posting my results, you can keep ur fan boying out of here if your gonna be irrational
Knowing if it's contaminated ? You would need to send into simec for that. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me a fanboy.
Anyway keep lab maxing and taking it for word. I only came in here to tell you taut lab max isn't the end all be all, so forget it and do what you want. It won't stop myself and thousands of others who use PC
All your first comment said was 'nope don't buy this', so you were being a dickhead with your short statement saying that my Labmax is wrong in your laughable opinion, no where did you say that the labmax isn't super accurate, all u said was nah I don't believe it. Changing your story now I guess. Your a fool son haha
I don't give two rats arses if u continue with PC or not, I'm just here to give my results, don't be so butt hurt son
Exactly I don't buy your little lab max test and neither does the majority on here. The only person butt hurt is you, for wasting time and money on this test
Hahaha you're a special fella aren't ya
Fuck outta here you know within a week. Relax guru you're not an expert. Like good labs have t put out out inconsistent or shit batches before. You're the one that came in here talking shit on his high horse and made this thread stupid. If he wishes to lab max his gear and believe them then that's his choice as it is to also post his results. If you don't like lab max, if you already know that pharmacom is quality then good on you skip the thread and move right along. The guy doesn't deserve flak for this
You get the fuck out of here. He isn't getting flak, it's common knowledge now that lab max is inconsistent. And yes I am an expert on my body, maybe you should work on that yourself.
He posted this for the public, therefore I'm allowed to post my opinion on it. So you can go fuck your self
Lolll go have a cry. Get to 120kg in single digits body fat then come talk to me about being an expert on my body. Clown. You sound like one of those gh15 retards that think they can pin or pop an oral and tell how good it is within an hour
You sound like one of those insecure short guys who believes scale weight means everything. My proportions are perfect not only for bodybuilding, but also daily life. I win. Also I said a week, not an hour. Learn to read
Lol I'm heavier and leaner but you win ok bro good one. "My proportions" excuse for I'm skinny and can't do anything about it so I'll just pretend I look good. It's ok bro no need to be mad that I'm shorter and bigger. Bodybuilding isn't for everyone bro it's alright. Did I write anywhere that you said an hour? Nope I didn't. I said "you sound like". Reading comprehension, work on it. You really aren't too smart like King nela said
look we clearly don't like each other, nothing wrong with that. But this is stupid now. Good luck with your goals. Don't reply to my posts anymore as I won't to you. TC
I don't know what to believe now. I even think Simec gets paid off so maybe just bloods are the only way to tell
Yea ine of the largest accredited labs in europe is going to risk their license for some small time steroid dealers(they are small time in the grand scheme of things).
Line Enhanced said, take your tin foil hat off.
And im not doubting your results but imo labmax is shit. My main board is meso and i have seen plenty of lab max test fails and then the same compound turns around and passes lab testing. I dont trust labmax for that reason.
Lab test or blood test are where its at.
Yes I know there have been times were the Labmax has given a negative and the gear was sent to the lab and it came back with positive results. HOWEVER when people send to test at Simec, they request ONE compound to be tested, Yes it may contain NPP or Test P or whatever, however it doesn't show if it's contaminated with other shit, that's my point. If it was 100% NPP or Test P it wouldn't give shit results on the Labmax in my opinion. And for those who say that tests have proved Labmax wrong, that's not entirely true because even though the Simec test might show there is NPP, it doesnt show if it has other shit in it cos you only requested for that ONE compound to be tested! You see what I mean? My point is, Pharmacom NPP and Test P isn't 100% pure.
You are right in that most of the time only one compound is tested for by simec, but it also teat the concentration. Sorry but if i get gear that has the proper dose of npp but also 1% is test prop i am not going to give a fuck, but it will make a labmax fail.