posted Wed, 07/13/2022 - 16:10
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+ 7 Pec tear before/after surgery
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First 4 are before injury- next 2 are after injury- last one is 4 weeks after surgery and being immobilized in a sling 23 hours a day (off for showers). Lot of atrophy and my conditioning is way down along with muscle size. Slowly working back up to be able to use injured side again.
Last 2- comparison of injured side/non injured side
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Up to 10LB dumbbells on flat bench press. 8lbs on military press and ROM almost 100%. The physical therapist is very good I wish I could plug them on here but I can’t. If anyone’s interested in progress pics I’ll post but it seems not many people get this injury so they don’t search for it. Also heard TJ watt just tore his Pec too
Well done on the progress bud, I think its just when most people get it they either don't want to talk about it or just stop training altogether. Getting an injury is more of a mental battle than a physical one at least until you can start lifting again.
I feel that. Constant obsession with my physique and atrophy after surgery was amplified by 100x when all of us on here already have some sort of body dysmorphia to begin with lol. MOST of us, not all but I know I’m one of them.
For sure mate, once you've had a few injuries in your training history you know exactly what's in the post. For the first 4 or 5 days its bad for sure but you are more pre-occupied with the injury pain itself. Then after the first week when you begin to get the big drop in body size the shit part begins. Every time you put your clothes on they get bigger and bigger on you, shoulders and chest draw in then you turn to the side and you begin to look flat too Lol Then the more time goes on you don't care about lifting big weights anymore - you just want to be able to train the muscle again.
Did my first chest resistance exercise at PT … 3lb dumbbell floor press. So shaky and twitchy but felt good mentally. Moving on up
Must be a very strange feeling when you haven't moved it for months, when it initially happened could you just not move the arm at all then?
I was moving the arm, bicep curls, shoulder band stuff, but this was the first intentional chest engagement and it def felt strange lol shaky as hell and it twitched the whole time. But I guess that’s good. Everything is attached and working properly.
Thats Great to hear things are progressing for you, I bet you were very nervous at first weren't ya?! Was the PT watching over you ready to give a spot!
So I figured why not post this here, since it explains my current situation. Once I get cleared to lift without restriction(hopefully 6-8 weeks) I will be starting a “comeback cycle” I was thinking of this
Test E- 400-500mg a week
NPP- 300-400mg a week
Primo- 600mg a week ( not sure if I wanna add primo or an oral instead)
Hgh angtropin- 3iu ED at bed
Humalog 5iu pre workout—increasing to 10iu (4 weeks on/off only training days)
Ideas? Thoughts? Main goal is to get back my size and shape quickly and safe as possible. I’m not worried about too much water because I’ll be back at work and my cardio will be HIGH. Thanks all
Seem to be getting a LITTLE bit of muscle size back in the bicep/tricep. I was cleared for strict isolation movements with maximum 10lbs. Still no shoulder resistance training. Shoulder atrophy is insane. Haven’t lifted my arm above 120degrees in almost 8 weeks. Passively(PT moving my arm) goes past that but I’m not engaging any muscles while he does it. Next week we start pushing more manual movements so I’m excited/nervous. It’s a total mind fuck thinking your tendon is held on to the bone by anchors and sutures and being afraid to move in anyway that could tear it again. I know bone heals around all that and x rays confirmed stuff looks good. But still a real mental block!
It's just a waiting game mate, nothing more you can do than that. It's shit and frustrating I know but in time things WILL get back to normal again. You are over the worst of it now and no longer sat around waiting for all the initial trauma to heal - you are now onto the recovery road and building function and strength in it again. I find injuries tend to put things in perspective - we are so lucky when our bodies are healthy and functioning correctly and we need to do everything possible to minimise risks to ourselves which could in any way affect our ability to train. Dangerous sports, riding motorbikes, fighting, etc any one of these things could effectively end it all in an instant if something were to go badly wrong and I know personally life wouldn't be worth living if I couldn't train
Good luck buddy
Does anyone know if I can add pictures to the thread while I progress? Or do I have to edit the original and add them up top? Thanks
Anyone?
Wish you a speedy recovery, looking lean man.
Good luck brother
WATERWOLF141looks good
Honestly brother, you're doing well and haven't atrophied far. I'm a reconstructive surgeon and deal with some serious chest wall shit. If this is your atrophy level, you're going to do very well. Listen to your surgeon, recover, let everything scar down and strengthen, then train smart and look like a beast in the near future. Good luck.
Wow that’s awesome, I love this kinesiology/ortho field but I’m ADHD and I just couldn’t do the all the school, started… didn’t finish but of course still love reading studies and what not. It’s really amazing what you surgeons can do these days. Thanks for doing what you do man! And thanks for the encouragement
Got a nice symmetrical lean physique man +1
Appreciate it bro. I was just getting serious to compete in my first show too. Huge blow to my mental state but I’m pushing forward and I will still get that show under my belt in time….
There will always be shows my friend, get healthy, time passes quickly this will all be a memory soon
Plus, I’m not getting any younger !! Haha
Hope so! My job also kept me very lean(moving all day mailbox to mailbox) lol sure you can figure out what I do…. But either way I really really hope that I can regain 80-90% of my strength. I would be ecstatic if that’s the case. I don’t ever plan on benching heavy again. Might even stick with hammer strength and moderate dumbbells. We’ll see! Progress will be posted.
I've seen guys in the powerlifting world who have had the same injury as you, and because the tendons have been reattached stronger than they were before via steel/titanium pins etc they are now much stronger because the join is much stronger!! They say that they guys who have had surgery have a slight advantage in this area so give it time and you never know! If you are willing to put the time in and allow things to heal better/learn from mistakes then you can easily get back to strength form. Although mine was not as severe as yours, in terms of lifting without the use of trenbolone which I always ran - I am now the strongest at benching that I have ever been. I've taken the time to study better training methods and nutrition plans more.
You can never put in too much time reading online information and consuming knowledge from articles written by professionals in the sport.
For sure. Appreciate the positivity brother. I’m always reading studies and asking questions. Partly why I started this thread, in hopes of someone else that has had the same injury posting about their experience. There has to be at-least a couple members on here that have had this injury/surgery, considering what we do and how we do it.
Lets see if @5percent4life can help you out with any advice as I am sure his injury was similar to this.
Yessir. However his has healed much better we couldnt recover part of my pec. But ill reach out to him
Damn what do you mean couldn’t recover part of it? What type of injury did you have? Thanks for coming to the thread also, appreciate ya
Cheers buddy - very much appreciated
I was wondering how you were getting along with your injury and thought you may be back to full recovery now but I didn't realise it was that severe. I am guessing it allowed you to focus more on deadlifting now did it?
You'll be back brother
We’re there any warning signs before you got the injury? I’d like to know for my own health.
Honestly not really… it was an evening workout after work. So I was pretty tired but I always train weekdays in the evening. However, I was experimenting with pre workout androgens for a couple weeks, either 20mg dbol with pre workout or 25mg anadrol with pre workout(alternating) So I assume the “boost” could have contributed to to a bit of extra strength my body wasn’t exactly ready for? Other than that, it wasn’t a PR or anything wild. I usually hit 315x6 And pyramid back down. And it happened on the 4th rep of 315.in the future I will probably never lift as heavy again, but once I find out where I’m willing to push it, I still may experiment with pre workout androgens as they really do help with mind muscle connection and endurance too…in my opinion. You live and you learn I guess ----♂️
Its interesting to see the difference in shoulder and arm development once you stop training the injured side, something you don't notice as much over time as you get bigger but then looking here you see just what a difference lifting weights make.
Definitely. Complete immobilization and not performing even the simplest of daily activities with one arm really contributes to muscle wasting. I will say just with body weight PT some size has already came back. I will update more once I figure out how to add pictures in comments/existing threads lol
Take it easy and I hope you recover 100%. I been there with injuries and it sucks. At 46 I don’t even go heavy anymore. Well… depends on what people consider heavy. Let’s say I don’t go really heavy for somebody who trains a lot.