posted Wed, 08/14/2013 - 08:59
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+ 10 PCT Triptorelin Total FAIL
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Pretty disappointed to say the least... This was 4 days after the Trip shot. My LH and FSH are virtually nonexistent.
I have still been taking GP Aromasin 12.5 mg ED (which is why I tagged Naps). I figured my estrogen would be a little lower considering I took the Aromasin about 10 hours before the test. But what do I know lol.
Also, my liver values are high I guess and I really don't know what the other numbers mean. I took 50 mg Clomid instantly after I read the results though. I was really excited about Triptorelin for PCT :(
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Why because you claim its bunk and we should replace it? I think not. You level of knowledge is near none.
AnonI thought u wrote u were finished here? Seems like u keep coming back! I don't give a fuck if ur product is gtg or bunk ur a fucking dick and ur fucking attitude is shit. U said u were done so move the fuck on then asshole! U aren't here to do any sort of customer service unless u call treating people like dirt customer service. I hope everyone see how u insult ur customers. Research companies are dime a dozen. U cheap bastard sell some pharma products and maybe I'd take u serious. Fake ass drug dealer!! Research chems are shit anyway just like ur fake ass!!!
juicemafiashit just got real in here
Darron614Yeah I definitely feel like this could have been handled much friendlier and more professionally.
Darron614I'm not asking to replace. I am going to send you an unopened vial. That's an exchange and you lose no money.
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You've said this is 19 days after your last injection of Test E. So the Test E has only cleared out less than a week ago. Your numbers are acceptible, and this is in no way a fail.
Your "Test, Serum" is still in the acceptible range. Honestly, I'd continue the PCT and take another blood work in 3-4 weeks
How's that? Isn't the acid test LH and FSH levels? It doesn't look like the trip did anything to affect them. If these levels stay the same expect those test levels to dwindle. You bet he better START standard PCT.
Darron614This isn't about the Test levels it's about LH and FSH which the Triptorelin failed to affect.
Do you know where your levels were previous to this pct? If not you may have had low t all along
Darron614This isn't about the Test levels it's about LH and FSH which the Triptorelin failed to affect.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/research-chemicals/184306-pct-triptore...
PPeptides is a good source but here is my opinion... plain and simple I don't think research chem companies are ready to duplicate trip. It seems all has fail except for Pharma. I hope that doesn't rub you the wrong way PPep you've been great to me and I absolutely love all that I've received, top notch... It's just this trip.... Somethings off with ALL of them. Not just yours.
Darron614What are you trying to say?
I'm not trying to say anything. I'm not here to be a counselor.
Looks like u have good AI, but the trip appears to be questionable for research purposes. Even the link mentions LH and FSH should jump.
Darron614Exactly... I'm not trying to bash or cry scammer. I believe your other products are most likely legit which is why I have been waiting to vote or leave a review.
PPeptides is a good source but here is my opinion... plain and simple I don't think research chem companies are ready to duplicate trip. It seems all has fail except for Pharma. I hope that doesn't rub you the wrong way PPep you've been great to me and I absolutely love all that I've received, top notch... It's just this trip.... Somethings off with ALL of them. Not just yours.
Darron614Right. I don't think anyone has legit Trip. It's not PP's fault, but I figured he would be more open to working with me on making things right.
What all did he say? His comments got deleted. I believe he will come around. He really is a good dude most the time. This must have just hit a sore spot. His ghrps are fire (makes you want to eat yourself waiting those 15 minutes) and his mt2 (which has a side effect of increasing libido) gives you non stop boners lol. Swear on everything taladafil (or whatever) doesn't have shit on mt2.
Darron614His comments are still showing up for me. He hasn't responded to my emails and he wants to debate here instead. Idk I thought I was being reasonable.
That's weird I can't see em
Darron614He is claiming that I did not follow proper protocol.
Darron614That's why I emailed you and I'm pretty sure my email followed all policy. I still have one vial I would like to return and I'm willing to take store credit or exchange because other than now I have read good things about your products.
Darron614So what the hell is in this other bottle of Triptorelin I have then???
? - Doesn't look like it helps for jumpstarting HPTA. If u have the funds, might contact angus/beaker to get an MS test done.
Sorry to see this brotha I was rooting for you, after my pct failed after my last run I incorporated trip along with clomid, aro, and nolva to try and reboot the system. Ill have my bloods by next week and if they come back promising ill post my protocol to try and help ya out. PM me if you need anything, good luck
Darron614Thanks for the support my man. I hope that your Trip is legit! This was my first cycle so I didn't really realize how stressful pct can be. Good luck to you too bro!
I just don't think getting legit tripto is very realistic unless it's from a real doctor.. I had pretty good results blasting hcg before a normal PCT
And why do you think it's not legit? I'd like to hear your reasoning on this one.
Find someone who's had a great reaction to tripto from ANY research source...
Darron614If this is true, which I agree that it is, then all these peptide sources need to remove Trip from their websites.
What he said ^^^^ ....refund time, problem is if it's a research chem co., the items aren't for human use I believe. I think it's some sort of violation of use.
Darron614Yeah I tested it on my lab rats and they had no reaction. The product is bunk so it's no good for research purposes. I never said anything about myself in my email to PP.
Seems to be a more realistic approach at this point.
Darron614Any input on the other high/low numbers?
BUN and creatine levels were high for me too, if you use creatine that is the explanation for this. No worries there, but your AST and ALT (liver) numbers are pretty high IMO. Use UDCA and liv 52 to try and clear that up, even milk thistle will help
Darron614Yep I take creatine so that makes sense. I took some milk thistle right away, but I need to order some udca or liv52. Thanks bro.
I would recommend UDCA or TUDCA like stated below, it has been shown to cure liver diseases
Thx for the test...gave +1 already. Looks like the trip isn't doing a damn thing. Did you fast before the test, btw?
Darron614Yeah they listed at the top that I did not fast (that part got cropped actually), but I did fast. Not quite a full 12 hours though. About 10 hours of fasting.
We're you sick or had some sort of infection to explain the low neutrophil/high lymphocytes? Thought you migh be dehydrated, but BUN/Creatinine ratio would be off - anyway expect a higher than normal BUN if you've been eating a lot of protein - and the creatinine levels would be high if you have alot of muscle mass as it reflects the loss of creatinine in your muscles; e.g. more muscles more loss. MegaT is the man for this stuff.
Darron614Well I have been eating a lot of protein and I think I have a lot of muscle mass lol. So those 2 are cool, but idk about the low neutrophils/high lymphocytes. My sinuses were bothering me a little bit last week, but nothing serious really. Thank you for the information.
I wouldn't consider it a TOTAL fail. I've seen guys in the 400's after a full blown aromasin/clomid/nolva pct
so if it got you a 369 thats not bad do a 3 week pct and see where you are at 1 week post pct
Those test levels must be lingering from the cycle though right? Because his lh/fsh is pretty much shut off?
Darron614This was 19 days after last injection. Would that much test linger from Enanthate?
The test should be out but in my opinion your test levels could easily be slightly elevated still like they are.
Correct!
Yes...I've seen this "lingering" happen and the test levels could still go down.
Darron614Yeah the Test level is what kept me from being too upset, but the "total fail" was really just meant for the Trip not working at all on LH/FSH levels. Thank you for the input though one less week of pct would be nice!