posted Wed, 08/14/2013 - 08:59
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+ 10 PCT Triptorelin Total FAIL
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Pretty disappointed to say the least... This was 4 days after the Trip shot. My LH and FSH are virtually nonexistent.
I have still been taking GP Aromasin 12.5 mg ED (which is why I tagged Naps). I figured my estrogen would be a little lower considering I took the Aromasin about 10 hours before the test. But what do I know lol.
Also, my liver values are high I guess and I really don't know what the other numbers mean. I took 50 mg Clomid instantly after I read the results though. I was really excited about Triptorelin for PCT :(
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Good lord...let's cut to the chase. If it's testable let's get it tested. If the shit's in their, frkin' then let's adjust the protocol. I think there's alot of interest in having this shit work including yours truly.
BigBmajI have a bottle ill donate to get tested. PM me if you want it.
Darron614So if the Triptorelin is really legit, then why won't you let me return my other unopened vial?
Read our return policy. Find a new vendor when your done.
Darron614Maybe I missed it, but I can't find it on your website.
Copy and paste for tools like you
http://www.purchasepeptides.com/shipping-return-of-merchandise
RETURN/REFUND POLICY
We will accept returns if it is due to damage that is our fault or manufacturers defects. The items that we sell are peptides and as such could degrade if improperly handled. As a result we are unable to resell products once they have left our warehouse.
There are certain extenuating circumstances where we will accept returns of unopened research chemicals. The return must be within 15 days of the time of the purchase. Please CONTACT US for more information.
Peptides on the other hand, due to their fragile nature and us being unable to monitor how they were handled when they were out of our care, could possibly degrade. We prefer not to accept returns of peptides due to this fact. Although we will listen to all cases should the need arise. Please CONTACT US to discuss this.
Darron614Maybe I'm a tool or maybe you don't have a shipping link on the homepage of your mobile site. Insulting me again just shows how unprofessional you are.
Darron614You honestly think that you needed to tell me to find a new vendor? You just lost a lot of customers from people reading this thread. And not even because of the bunk Trip, but because of your rude attitude and poor customer service.
Do you think I care? I could walk from this place tomorrow and give 2 shits. You are clueless. Have zero knowledge. But as always everything comes out in the wash when we deal with clowns like you. BTW I treat every clueless tool such as yourself like this this isn't the first time I've openly called out someone with ZERO knowledge.
Darron614No you are just an asshole who is pissed that someone called him on his bunk product. I could take a blood test one minute after my Trip shot and my LH/FSH would still be at zero. This blood work shows that it did nothing and virtually everyone agrees with that.
Take care. Go buy some books an educate yourself. I have more knowledge in my thumb then your entire being.
Darron614Your arrogance will bite you in the ass one day.
As well as your stupidity. You had no right even ordering this product. You admited that you were consider the second vial which could have proven disasterous. You have no clue. You don't even belong in these waters. As I said go educate yourself before you get hurt.
Darron614Lol I never considered using the 2nd vial. It is worthless. I have been trying to send it back to you and I was very reasonable from the beginning.
I was simply stating that even if I used the other vial regardless of protocol, the results would be the same.
AnonFunny thing bout triptoreilin it was invented to basically kill ur ball sack when u have cancer the testosterone feeds the tumor in this case prostate cancer
But the comeical part is that men wit hypogondism their test level went back to in range levels BUT after 1 month after 1 inject of 100mcg
So u only waited 4days u jumped the gun homie, in our case of roid using and wanting to keep as much muscle u still gota use clomid n nolvadex
Heres the study hope it helps
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20416868/
Darron614If the trip was legit my LH and FSH would not both be zero bro.
AnonIt takes time its not a quick acting compound, just have a lil paitients man plus ur good now u using clomid ur safe now
And i reccomend u use some standardized herbs to take care of ur other hormones PCT aint only bout Testosterone and Estrogen
U gota take care of the catabolic hormones go check out my successful pct prolly help tons i didnt loose no weight nor any muscle mass nor strength just lost endurance u feel me
Give me your scientific explanation why not? Floors yours doctor.
Darron614http://www.ergo-log.com/triptorelin.html
"The doctors decided to treat the guy with the GnRH analogue triptorelin. GnRH is a hormone that consists of only 10 amino acids. It is produced in the brain by the hypothalamus and stimulates the production of FSH and LH by the pituitary gland. The hormones travel in the blood to the sex glands, where they get these to produce testosterone.
The bodybuilder responded immediately to the hormone treatment. Within several minutes the concentration of LH and FSH in his blood had risen."
The last sentence.
AnonThis is from the ergo link u sent
The doctors saw the bodybuilder 10 days later. His energy had returned and the testosterone concentration in his blood had risen to 7 ng/ml. Another three weeks later, his testosterone level was still normal, and his libido had returned too.
Source:
Fertil Steril. 2010 Apr 21. [Epub ahead of print].
Click on the green link where it says source
Ull see the actuall study they are basing that article on
Does this not imply a significant enough LH level then? 7ng/ml is alot of test relatively speaking. Otherwise, where is the testosterone producing stimulation coming from. Bro, I get that you're trying to help...if you've taken the Pepsi test and done this, and gotten it to actually work cool then show us what you did. Otherwise, this is just stuff in the books. That has its uses but limitations as well.
Darron614I don't think he is understanding that for the Testosterone to be increasing back to normal then their must be something stimulating its production... LH and FSH!!!
Several minutes. were your bloods conducted several minutes after your administration to your subject that still had testosterone in its blood stream? I am finished here.
The half life is extremely short.
Good night everyone.
I have don't have an agenda except finding real trip for research. So you'd standby the results of a test administered within say 30 minutes after test subject usage? Otherwise, you can keep the rope and do with it what you will.
AnonDude did u read at the bottom where it says source in green the link to pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20416868/
Result was within 1month im telling u bro
Ive read about this compound in pharmacology 1 in school
That website must of twisted the words around remenber people are always trying to sell u stuff online never trust anything but pubmed man or CDC.gov webmd is ok but the first 2 are my favorite from what i was thaught to use in school
Darron614Did you read the link at the bottom of the pubmed article that says that is not the full article?
The Test levels take time to come back all the way. But the test is made because the LH and FSH levels go up right away!
AnonOoo i see what u mean thats the abstract the full text has to be purchased can u copy and paste the full text for us bro? to see what u r talking about
AnonThe link i just sent u was from the website u put out go to ur website go scroll to the bottom and it takes u to that pubmed link it clearly says after 1month
Im just tryin to help u brother
Darron614Go to the bottom of the pubmed link. It's not the original study either.
A man who does his research! Hats off to you
Let's see what a MS test says. If it's testable, it'll be funded.
And that's it just a mass spectrum? About Useless. Allot of people here have allot to learn. One should stay silent if they don't know the complete truth. I don't care how high the number by their name is.
http://allaboutpeptides.com/the-truth-about-peptide-purity-testing/
Well that's helpful...guess we'll have to see if amino acid analysis can be done too. More than a few folks buy igf-lr3 or des. It'd be nice to know not only if you have the target peptide, but how much. Though 100 mcg is pretty small in this case.
Darron614Mass Spec will not tell us how much Trip is in the sample, but it will tell us if there is actually any Trip in there. I don't believe there is any, so I think the test is useful.
I've got $20 to a source of his choice. He did a lot for us selflessly. He deserves it.
Bro look at my bloods I just did. Compare numbers and read what vewi said. Keep your head up +1
Looks about right 4 weeks into PCT. Looks like you had legit PCT products.
Darron614I just wish I started regular pct from day one and never wasted this time or money.
You'll be ok...you'd recover anyway, albeit slower w/o PCT. Test cycle right? Actually you helped some people too.
Darron614Yep the standard first Test E cycle. Did 13 weeks though. I am glad I could contribute to the community though. Thanks for your help too bro.
Contribute how? did you calculate your half life prior to running your test? It doesn't appear so if it was only 19 days.
His protocol doesn't appear to be within proper testing guidelines.
Darron614Dude my LH and FSH levels are ZERO. Idk what you're getting at, but the protocol is wait 2 weeks after last pin then pct on 15th day.
it's possible some of the test got stored in your fat and is still being released. This often happens when people don't inject deep enough
but looking at your bodyfat I doubt it
Wrong! Calculate your half life or do you not know how to do that? Who made up the 2 week rule? Dumb ass whoever it is. I suggest you carefully read the post on IM
AnonYea it depends on what he ran the 2week rule is not accurate, if it was test ethanate half life is 5days test cypionate 4-7days
Everytime thise days pass by half of the total mg is excretes by urine or fecal
http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/lookup.cfm?setid=cfbb53d4-b868-4a28...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2333732/
Darron614Idk man but literally every vet here goes by that rule. And I understand the concept of half lives sir. All this is completely irrelevant to the fact that LH and FSH were not elevated at all.
Well the vets are morons if that's the case. Ya I said it! Meaningless to administer this with anything in your test subjects system.
Darron614So you're saying if the test subject gets another dose of this triptorelin in another week that it will work properly? I'm sorry, but I really doubt it. I don't want to argue though like I tried to email you about working this out.
Son you have allot to learn. Stay away for at least 6 months. I'm finished here.
Darron614So you're going to ignore my emails and ignore any attempts to exchange the other vial I have??