posted Wed, 04/27/2016 - 06:37
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+ 13 Pct bunk clomid
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So I went a few days ago to pull igf serum and added in a female hormone panel because my nuts haven't dropped the 2 1/2 weeks I've been on endurexx clomid. I haven't even taken an AI but like once a week 12.5 mg exemestane and my estro has crashed because testosterone isn't being produced, def feel it in my joints. Took som research chem clomid I had on hand the last 2 days and my nuts have aready dropped and filled out.
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Who's tried that stealth gear from them is that shit bad too ??
bigwillyEndurex ?
Yes endurexx
I have test e 250 from the same lab from this src from a promo. If I can't trust their PCT items I'm sure as f**k not going to pin their oil. Good to know and thanks for posting. Looking forward to seeing a post that you've recovered soon.
I pinned 1cc of endurexx sust from promo on tuesday ...i have major redness and swelling at injection site ...im not liking this gear
Damn I have that Sust as well, anyone else having this issue?
You going to the ER brother? How are you feeling? Can you post a pic?
No doctor yet ..its been four days i have had irritation like this before off high mg gear but not sust 250 ...ill give it a day or two more if the swelling dosent go down to the doc for sure .....you might just bin that shit...i can post a pic
Might be too much BA in it causing major PIP which isn't good. Yeah. Going in the dumpster with my sharps. Post up a pic of the swelling and redness and let us have a look see.
I think the endurexx brand is a good ugl, sometimes shit just happens, just like any busy.
Bloods don't lie thanks for posting !! Btw what made u use clomid last go didn't u use certain peptides and had great results ??
+1
I always use clomid in my pct. I actually like the effects of clomid, I never get bad side effects like some people.
Interesting ..... If u don't mind me asking what did u use for this pct??
Clomid, torem, and exemestane, GH 5 ius ed and ostarine 15 mg.
Interesting combo fr sent broski
Thanks for the bloods bro. ++
skrewlooseThanx bro...
Hump what was your cycle that your ran?
Contest prep. Test, tren, mast and mostly orals the last week. I've recovery exceptually well from former cycles in tren.
People lie .. Unfortunately blood tests do not lie thanks for posting this +2
There are very supresive cycles that if you do a normal ptc you don't go to recover, I have that experience last year with trembolone and dragon pharma ptc, now and after another failed ptc with pharma grade clomid I did that year, I know that dragon pharma clomid maybe don't bunk as I told.
I only try to say that there is a lot of variables
You are correct but if the clomid was remotely good he still would not be crashed this bad 2.5 weeks in .. But you are correct
Right on!!
Also my sample is almost expired, in the pharmacy industry it means that have lost at least 10% of the potency
What was your cycle? I have used endurex clomid and the smell of the pills are the same as legit clomid, you can also taste one pill and see if it numb your tongue like cocaine, it's a particular effect of clomid and the awful taste
RustyhookerClomid numbs the tongue yes.
Richard.SimmonsHow do you know what fillers are used ??
Lol
Why bother with blood test when you can sniff that shit and tell if it's legit and fiyye. And I was just reading some posts about "finger testing" their gesr and thought it was a joke
.... Is not so simple.... I haven't recover with dragon pharma, i have bloods, o though it was bunk, then I did a ptc with pharma grade, bought by me an the local pharmacy and the same thing happened, not recover, I had to do 4 ptc, so things are not that simple...
I'm not saying it's not but deciding if a product is legit by smell and taste sounds a bit like s bro science and makes me laugh
Bingo. The whole taste ,smell ,side effects ....proving legitimacy of products is sad...
rocketballzThat doesn't even rise to the level of bro science lmao! It sounds completely ridiculous. I'm not saying clomid doesn't have a distinct odor....maybe it does...But I've never judged a drug, other than illicit drugs, by smell and I have never heard of anyone doing that.
Even with ilicit drugs you can't say much just from the smell unless you have some k9 genes in you lol
rocketballzYes, sure...
Never had a smell or numbed my tounge.
You have to try chewing one
rocketballzHuh? Wow
In no way does this test prove that Endurexx Clomid is fake. You didn't list your dosage or the amount of time you've been running the Clomid. We've had hundreds of people use this product, and achieved desired effects.. You didn't list any other products you're taking. If you're taking ONLY clomid, which is all that we can tell from this post, then your test looks correct. This post doesn't provide anywhere close to enough information. It also show your ALT and AST are high, which is often a side affect of Clomid. We've LC/MS'd and HPLC this product and proven it's purity in the past, and we'll do it again, to confirm its legitimacy. Please send us a PM, and we can work with you, and also send you the Test Results once they are completed.
2 1/2 weeks started day one 250 mg, day 2 200, day 3 200 mg, and then 100 mg ed until I got blood pulled. I wish the clomid was legit, but no way it is. I never felt the clomid, nuts never dropped and as soon as I started another brand of clomid, wallah nut dropped and filled out. 2 1/2 weeks is plenty of time to draw bloods on clomid, it should start I ceasing test from day one.
Big H....what was your IGF1 (it's cut off in the pic)
Was it taken as a "baseline" or were you taking GH?
TY
Grey tops 5 ius x 1 ed 262, which isn't bad considering my estro was crashed
Thanks HnP. Seems there's lots to learn when it comes to blood work. The more results I see the more confused I get. LOL. I read that Clomid reduces GH secretion, lowers IGF-1 levels, and elevates SHBG levels.
As always, thanks for posting H. Look forward to seeing some more phenomenal udpate pics bro.
RustyhookerLh and fsh are sub par. Test level is tanked as well. Thats completely faulty pct.
I also chat with the op constantly and know for a fact he runs a full pct. Not JUST clomid. He's been here many years and helpful in all ways in forums etc fir this site.
Don't pass the buck.
rocketballz^^^ for sure! the op is a solid contributor on here and I know for a fact he's diligent about blood work and knows his pct protocols!!!
Legit clomid would have that test level far above where it is here especially at those high doses...even at 2.5 weeks into pct...and worse yet, as rusty said, lh and fsh should be starting to only become more elevated.Not stay at the trough. My lh and fsh skyrocket on clomid because of the inhibition of the neg feedback loop. All around these numbers would be higher on pharma clomid
I follow you and Big H on cycles, SARMs, etc. I'm always wanting to learn. I thought this was an interesting documented case of a PCT: (Medical study using Pharma Meds)
Case 2: [83]
5'10" 184 lbs 36 year old Caucasian male with a 2 year history of continuous nandrolone use, 200-400 mg/week.
Pre-values: LH < 1.0 IU/L, testosterone 45 ng/dL.
Treatment 1 (32 days):
2,500 IU hCG every 4 d (8 total), clomiphene (50 mg twice daily) and arimidex (1 mg once daily.).
Post-values: LH < 1.0 IU/L, testosterone 38 ng/dL.
Treatment 2 (60 days):
5,000 IU hCG every 4 days (4 injections total) followed by 2,500 IU hCG every 4 d (4 injections total), clomiphene (50 mg twice daily) and tamoxifen (10 mg once daily).
Post-values: LH > 1.4 IU/L, testosterone 63 ng/dL.
Treatment 3 (32 days):
5,000 IU hCG every other day (6 injections total) followed by 2,500 IU hCG every other day (6 injections total) given simultaneously with menotropin 150 IU every other day (6 injections total), clomiphene (50 mg twice daily) and tamoxifen (10 mg once daily).
Post-values: LH 9.8 IU/L, testosterone 507 ng/dL.
So are we 100% sure the Endurexx Clomid is bunk? Again, just wanting to learn a bit more.....in no way am I'm question Big H or his Blood Work
RustyhookerYes, its bunk. There's enough blood tests posted to show as proof all his numbers are tanked.
And hcg isn't used the ways you listed them. Those are reboot cycles of hcg which then is immediately followed by clomid/nolva/aro pct. You can find reboot pct easily in basskiller etc.
Furthermore, I just posted a forum on chems tgat make unfirtile bodybuilders into fertile again. Hcg/hmb combo. Fertility clinics follow up with clomid so all the systems are going.
Thanks RH
I just posted these results (PCT Protocols) from some documented blood work that is outlined at an HRT Clinic I've used in the past. (Dr. Pierce) We really dont see much documented cases (results from PCT) like this or like HnP has done.
HnP has done enough Blood Work for "comparison". So yea, it looks like there's an issue unfortunately :(
There's a couple members here that have gotten pitiful IGF1 results from a legit GH product. If they would not have gotten similar results on other Pharma/Generic products we would think the product is bunk. So having a history of blood work for comparison like HnP has done helps
(This response is for you too RocketB)
RustyhookerYes, definitely need baseline prior on igf. I'd seen those tests and read there's some folks non receptive if that fits in there.
rocketballzI think all those numbers mean is that hcg is in fact suppressive during pct. I'm not surprised the clomid didn't work in the first ones. It coundn't. Hcg aromatizes jnto estro while clomid only blocks it at the pituitary. Adex was the wrong Ai to use. Aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor and would have a better choice. Adex could cause estro rebound or aggravate it thus keeping the Neg feedback going.
I'm also not surprised at the elevsted LH and test in the last one because for 32 days they were injecting actual LH and fsh In the form of menotropin. Yes there was hcg use too but with the addition of the hmg it would be difficult to have low LH and fsh after injecting the actual compound into your body for 32 days one and off. I don't think these numbers mean too much as far as this specific issue hump is having with the source.