Dragon Pharma has different bases and they can not import & export all stuffs to there for making same vials, ike label and bottles. They have Europe production and Asian . Even Asian has more than 2 bases. That is why vials will be look different + labels, But if you have any doubt about us for selling fake products. You can shortly send your email to Dragon Pharma on officially page and can get response about our verify.
Also If you have any doubt about products please send them to Simec Lab and if any issue we ll be cover it and can send your money double back.
Also what do they use to put these red dragons on the bottles I just peeled the lable off a sust 350 bottle and for the life of me I can't get the red dragon to come off I tried using a razor and scratching it off and it doesn't phaze it not even a scratch .. so whatever it is it's a good method to prevent coppies Imo.
Yea that was the point of the red dragon. To make it more difficult for random home brew to fake. That’s why it’s weird to not see the red dragon. They claim there was “stock issues” my guess is they could have possibly ran out of stock and did drop shipping. Having another UGL ship their Primo on their behalf. Of course these are just assumptions
I got a responses back from Dragon Pharama labs and It was practically the same response OSgear sent me. I just pinned 1cc of the same stuff on Thursday and so far no night sweats. I’ll pin 2.5cc again on Monday and see what happens.
“Hello
Thank you for your email:-)
We used for some batches without red dragon inside the vial due to stock issue at that time:-(
Oil color doesn’t mean anything if you are worried about your products because of oil is not same please be my guest send it to a testing facility their name is chemtox in France and simec in Switzerland:-)
something as simple as a red dragon would be faked also by someone faking a product, it's a super red flag not having it there if it was fake so I'm sure a fake would have the red dragon on the label
Stickers are bought by the bulk so why is the sticker without the dragon? So are you saying it’s impossible that the primo can not be faked?
Changes in batch are common with each brew, but changes in stickers hmmm. I think the reason why dragon Pharma have the red dragon on the reverse side is to make it difficult to replicate. (I’m guessing) but it would make sense.
You don’t know where osgears get their dragon products. You can’t tell me 100% they always get it from the same suppliers.
You’re saying I’m new? Don’t make me laugh. You sound like a newb. You think they can’t take a lot# from a real product and stick it on a fake vial of primo? Give me a break. Even lot# can be faked and will pass verification. GTFOH
And explain to me why would Dragon Pharma change their sticker labels? What’s the reason for that? Even the color hue is different look at the yellow and grey on both vials. What’s the reason for switching back and forth?
Obviously your neg 5 is gonna get bigger real soon. I specifically asked if you contacted the lab itself. You sound like a troll. I was trying to help you. Now im negging y ou
and you reccomend shopping there....
Spent $180 per vial and I got 2 fake ones out of 8 vials and they won’t even try to send me another 2 to make up for the fakes. They want me to bring it to a lab. WTF it’s clearly fake. How come 6 vials the oil is yellow and the sticker on the vial has a red dragon and the other 2 have clear oil and no red dragon logo.
I contacted OSgear and I sent an email to dragon Pharma. OSgear said to send it to a lab to get tested.
Dragon Pharma has not return my e-mail.
Have a good night sir. You’re so helpful thanks
Oh and yes I did recommend OSgear. Just because I got 2 vials that we’re diff and possibly be fake doesn’t mean OSgear is a bad source and everyone should stop ordering. If that was the case then all these UGL would have gone out of business long ago.
Why the fuck would I waste my time reverse scamming? What a moron. Is that what you do? Tha fuck would I waste time scamming for two vials. What an idiot.
And you’re not “half retarded” you’re full blown retard.
You sound like you got some anger issues. Back off the tren bruh.
if you look at your pictures the one with the red dragon has a lot number 95 before the ones without the dragon on the labels, also the one with the dragon expires a year before the two your claiming are fake (dragon 2020 without 2021) something isnt right here, the ten vials I just received all had the same year expiration date looks like your trying to pull a fast one maybe?
Why do you even care about lot numbers and expiration dates? Do you honestly think that means anything? Anyone can make fakes and slap on 100 stickers on a 100 vials with the same lot # heck I’ve seen fake vials with serials #’s that can pass online through website verification but that doesn’t mean it’s real.
What ten vials did you order? Was it primo?
I’ve order from OSgear many times before and this is my first time getting fever and night sweats from primo. I’m just sharing my story about what I received and how the vials sticker and oil is different.
If you read my post. You would see my first order was 5 vials and they all had the red dragon and the oil was yellow.
Second order I bought 3 more vials but 2 of the vials didn’t have the dragon hense the picture and only 1 vial had the dragon.
So it was weird to me. Anyways I decided to pin the one without the dragon and that’s when I got fever and night sweats and that’s why I’m on here sharing what happened to me.
I can care less about losing $360 on those 2 vials that could possibly be faked. What I do care about is that I could have died pinning an unkown substance.
Keep in mind the reason why I bought primo 200 was because I was pinning 1000mg a week. So imagine if it wasn’t primo and you were going to pin 1000mg a week. RIP bro
Hey guys I got a response back from Os here is what he said “You are correct as 95% of the time they do have red label imprint on the inside, however there are couple of batches they had production difficulties in which included running out of imprints. However production is back to the original facility with the red imprint. We are one of the main sellers of Dragon Pharma and I can assure you that its legit product.”
Got back to me very quick and professional and slightly puts my mind at ease but it’s really your guys call. I kind of believe him ya know shit does happen. Mine is only test though so like you said I doubt they would fake test I don’t know about the promo though that’s your call.
Well it’s expected that they will give you that response. No source out there will admit to selling fakes. And what difficulty did they encounter? The machine ran out of red ink? LoL and why the oil difference in color from yellow to clear?
I would think if it’s legit dragon Pharma it should always have the red imprint on the reverse side. Not only that but the yellow label isn’t even the same shade of yellow. Look closely at the pictures.
I cant see someone making a fake over seeing something as obvious like the red dragon inside the label it would be a huge boo boo on their part and a big red flag
From what everyone has been saying is that primo is widely faked and usually replaced with something like masteron, tren, or oil.
I dunno man it’s a gamble when purchasing from UGL
I will pin the clear oil with no red dragon label again next week and see what symptoms I get again, but this time I’m not going to pin 2.5cc just 1cc.
If I get night sweats and fever again then it’s obviously not primo and there is no need to even test it with a steroid kit.
Primo has zero or very very mild sides and the past few cycles I have done I never ever get sides.
Dragon is a damned good brand (I've had pretty good blood numbers with their test) and normally OS is a reliable source, for selling dragon. But the fact that the red dragon is missed, sounds not good. Normally it should be printed on all dragon vials.
I just looked back at some previously posted pics on the osgear review page and some vials have the dragon some dont and one of the lots is 1802 I have a feeling it's a packaging flaw
I,ve run so much primo brother for past years and you can get night sweats from primo too once in a while .Sometimes is just how body reacts. Night sweats and fever doesnt mean primo is fake in general, but im not saying your stuff is fake or real.
Interesting because I’ve never had night sweats from primo and everyone that I know who tried primo never get night sweats. It’s possible yours wasn’t primo.
Unless it’s sent to a lab and you did your own independent testing it’s hard to say.
Heres my thought, its a UGL not Pfizer. There will always be some type of discrepancies. Before calling out the source do a lab max or roidtest to at least back up your claim slightly. I dont care either way but check it.
That's all the response you received from OS? "send it to a lab" was their response. No explanation on color or label differences? Wow. I would've expected more from them. I been using them for years as my primary. Waiting on a few orders now from them. Always had good customer service.
That's a turn off right there. Hopefully you get it worked out.
Definitely gonna check my labels when my pack arrives.
This is interesting I just got some dragon test cyp 250 from os gear and it doesn’t have a red dragon on it either. Does this really mean it’s fake?? I haven’t used any yet..
Ive got test e, test c, both 250 and 400. Also deca 300. From dragon. All have the red underlining dragon. Its all ive ever see too. But the company i go through ships directly from dragon so im not buying it from someone else. And i have bloods backing the quality of the test.
I doubt they would make fake test. However it could mean that it wasn’t made by Dragon Pharma but someone using their logos and making them in their garage lol
Just went to check if the lot number checks out on dragon pharmas website and it doesn’t. Lot:DPTC-1807. However osgear checks out as their gold supplier so I have no idea
I received x3 dragon pharma cypionat 250 lot DPTC 1807 exp 07/2021 from naps. They did not have the red dragon on any of the three. The oil is clear looking. Did you ever determine if yours was good or not?
Damn that still scares me bro. I’m not sure if I’ll even run it now. I reached out to them too I guess we’ll see how the respond to me. I wonder if they have any info on dragon pharmas website.
I just received an order and my 3 vials of sus 350 which all had the red dragons. 2 of my 4 cypionate had the red dragons and the tren had the red dragon inside. when I checked the lot the number, it was off by 2 (lot 1805/1807) for the cypionate. I'm gonna try it this week so I guess I'll see if it's all good gear. I 'm assuming it's just a packaging difference
Interesting post. Have you contacted OS, what did they say? OS and their line has always treated me very well but it’s not to say things do go wrong. I’m sure they will offer to pay for it to be sent to be tested or something along those lines.
I did reach out to them and told them it was different and I got fever and night sweats. Then they just told me that they guaranteed their products and told me to send it to a lab for testing. (I don’t know where to send it)
then they said just get bloods done and that should be enough but how is bloods going to show if it’s fake or real primo?
They never offered to send me 2 new vials or give me store credit.
Sorry I know there’s a lot of fans and optimistic guys but without that ceramic painted red dragon on the vial I would call it counterfeit. I mean isn’t that why they do that? And if it changed then someone should be notified
Dragon Pharma has different bases and they can not import & export all stuffs to there for making same vials, ike label and bottles. They have Europe production and Asian . Even Asian has more than 2 bases. That is why vials will be look different + labels, But if you have any doubt about us for selling fake products. You can shortly send your email to Dragon Pharma on officially page and can get response about our verify.
Also If you have any doubt about products please send them to Simec Lab and if any issue we ll be cover it and can send your money double back.
Thanks!
Just noticed all my dragon test cyp do not have the red dragon on them either . I'm kinda courious now..
Also what do they use to put these red dragons on the bottles I just peeled the lable off a sust 350 bottle and for the life of me I can't get the red dragon to come off I tried using a razor and scratching it off and it doesn't phaze it not even a scratch .. so whatever it is it's a good method to prevent coppies Imo.
Yea that was the point of the red dragon. To make it more difficult for random home brew to fake. That’s why it’s weird to not see the red dragon. They claim there was “stock issues” my guess is they could have possibly ran out of stock and did drop shipping. Having another UGL ship their Primo on their behalf. Of course these are just assumptions
What about the black caps are they all the same ? Dragon has an imprint I believe of do right ? Not sure if that's something easily faked or not.
I got a responses back from Dragon Pharama labs and It was practically the same response OSgear sent me. I just pinned 1cc of the same stuff on Thursday and so far no night sweats. I’ll pin 2.5cc again on Monday and see what happens.
“Hello
Thank you for your email:-)
We used for some batches without red dragon inside the vial due to stock issue at that time:-(
Oil color doesn’t mean anything if you are worried about your products because of oil is not same please be my guest send it to a testing facility their name is chemtox in France and simec in Switzerland:-)
Regards
DP
Sent from ProtonMail Mobile”
Straight from the horses mouth. Can put this to rest now.
They've clearly been run through the same labelling machine as the stickers are exactly the same
(Not in line with each other)
But to say a ugl is fake because of a label is a bold statement mate.
Get a lab max test for it mate to give yourself a better look into the situation
yea pretty much what OSgear told me to. They said go get it tested.
Sir eric green would never sell fakes.
something as simple as a red dragon would be faked also by someone faking a product, it's a super red flag not having it there if it was fake so I'm sure a fake would have the red dragon on the label
RustyhookerYou do realize its UGL gear and not pharmacy right. And that UGL changes batch to batch. And stickers are bought by the gross.
Contact dragon direct....
Obviously.
Stickers are bought by the bulk so why is the sticker without the dragon? So are you saying it’s impossible that the primo can not be faked?
Changes in batch are common with each brew, but changes in stickers hmmm. I think the reason why dragon Pharma have the red dragon on the reverse side is to make it difficult to replicate. (I’m guessing) but it would make sense.
You don’t know where osgears get their dragon products. You can’t tell me 100% they always get it from the same suppliers.
RustyhookerYoure obviously new. Stickers are stickers. Youre being goofy. Go direct to the lab. I care less bout the source part when the lab would clarify.
If you think stickers dont change....wake up.
http://dragon-pharma.com/vserving-you-with-love-and-care/
Verify work?
You’re saying I’m new? Don’t make me laugh. You sound like a newb. You think they can’t take a lot# from a real product and stick it on a fake vial of primo? Give me a break. Even lot# can be faked and will pass verification. GTFOH
And explain to me why would Dragon Pharma change their sticker labels? What’s the reason for that? Even the color hue is different look at the yellow and grey on both vials. What’s the reason for switching back and forth?
I’m waiting
RustyhookerObviously your neg 5 is gonna get bigger real soon. I specifically asked if you contacted the lab itself. You sound like a troll. I was trying to help you. Now im negging y ou
and you reccomend shopping there....
Spent $180 per vial and I got 2 fake ones out of 8 vials and they won’t even try to send me another 2 to make up for the fakes. They want me to bring it to a lab. WTF it’s clearly fake. How come 6 vials the oil is yellow and the sticker on the vial has a red dragon and the other 2 have clear oil and no red dragon logo.
I recommend shopping here
I contacted OSgear and I sent an email to dragon Pharma. OSgear said to send it to a lab to get tested.
Dragon Pharma has not return my e-mail.
Have a good night sir. You’re so helpful thanks
Oh and yes I did recommend OSgear. Just because I got 2 vials that we’re diff and possibly be fake doesn’t mean OSgear is a bad source and everyone should stop ordering. If that was the case then all these UGL would have gone out of business long ago.
RustyhookerYoure a goddamn stupid fuckface!!! Look at tgeir SI PAGE MORON.
But im no help? Im negging you again for being half retarded. Based on your 99% trying to reverse scam some shit.
Why you mad little bitch?
Why the fuck would I waste my time reverse scamming? What a moron. Is that what you do? Tha fuck would I waste time scamming for two vials. What an idiot.
And you’re not “half retarded” you’re full blown retard.
You sound like you got some anger issues. Back off the tren bruh.
RustyhookerDumbass. Did you even see my post on their si page?
if you look at your pictures the one with the red dragon has a lot number 95 before the ones without the dragon on the labels, also the one with the dragon expires a year before the two your claiming are fake (dragon 2020 without 2021) something isnt right here, the ten vials I just received all had the same year expiration date looks like your trying to pull a fast one maybe?
Not sure what you mean by pulling a fast one?
Why do you even care about lot numbers and expiration dates? Do you honestly think that means anything? Anyone can make fakes and slap on 100 stickers on a 100 vials with the same lot # heck I’ve seen fake vials with serials #’s that can pass online through website verification but that doesn’t mean it’s real.
What ten vials did you order? Was it primo?
I’ve order from OSgear many times before and this is my first time getting fever and night sweats from primo. I’m just sharing my story about what I received and how the vials sticker and oil is different.
If you read my post. You would see my first order was 5 vials and they all had the red dragon and the oil was yellow.
Second order I bought 3 more vials but 2 of the vials didn’t have the dragon hense the picture and only 1 vial had the dragon.
So it was weird to me. Anyways I decided to pin the one without the dragon and that’s when I got fever and night sweats and that’s why I’m on here sharing what happened to me.
I can care less about losing $360 on those 2 vials that could possibly be faked. What I do care about is that I could have died pinning an unkown substance.
Keep in mind the reason why I bought primo 200 was because I was pinning 1000mg a week. So imagine if it wasn’t primo and you were going to pin 1000mg a week. RIP bro
then I guess test all your products before pinning if your that paranoid
I’m not paranoid at all bruh. If I was I wouldn’t be ordering steroids from UGL in the first place.
I’m just sharing information on my order to help the community or at least let people be aware and they can make their own decisions.
Hey guys I got a response back from Os here is what he said “You are correct as 95% of the time they do have red label imprint on the inside, however there are couple of batches they had production difficulties in which included running out of imprints. However production is back to the original facility with the red imprint. We are one of the main sellers of Dragon Pharma and I can assure you that its legit product.”
Got back to me very quick and professional and slightly puts my mind at ease but it’s really your guys call. I kind of believe him ya know shit does happen. Mine is only test though so like you said I doubt they would fake test I don’t know about the promo though that’s your call.
Well it’s expected that they will give you that response. No source out there will admit to selling fakes. And what difficulty did they encounter? The machine ran out of red ink? LoL and why the oil difference in color from yellow to clear?
I would think if it’s legit dragon Pharma it should always have the red imprint on the reverse side. Not only that but the yellow label isn’t even the same shade of yellow. Look closely at the pictures.
I cant see someone making a fake over seeing something as obvious like the red dragon inside the label it would be a huge boo boo on their part and a big red flag
From what everyone has been saying is that primo is widely faked and usually replaced with something like masteron, tren, or oil.
I dunno man it’s a gamble when purchasing from UGL
I will pin the clear oil with no red dragon label again next week and see what symptoms I get again, but this time I’m not going to pin 2.5cc just 1cc.
If I get night sweats and fever again then it’s obviously not primo and there is no need to even test it with a steroid kit.
Primo has zero or very very mild sides and the past few cycles I have done I never ever get sides.
Dragon is a damned good brand (I've had pretty good blood numbers with their test) and normally OS is a reliable source, for selling dragon. But the fact that the red dragon is missed, sounds not good. Normally it should be printed on all dragon vials.
I just looked back at some previously posted pics on the osgear review page and some vials have the dragon some dont and one of the lots is 1802 I have a feeling it's a packaging flaw
Yea I hope so but why did I get fever and night sweats? I’ve never have fever and nights sweats from primo. Last about 3 days.
I,ve run so much primo brother for past years and you can get night sweats from primo too once in a while .Sometimes is just how body reacts. Night sweats and fever doesnt mean primo is fake in general, but im not saying your stuff is fake or real.
Interesting because I’ve never had night sweats from primo and everyone that I know who tried primo never get night sweats. It’s possible yours wasn’t primo.
Unless it’s sent to a lab and you did your own independent testing it’s hard to say.
I get the sweats every once in awhile with primo.
Maybe it isn’t primo bruh.
RustyhookerInfection from bad pinning? Lasts 3 day is odd...
Heres my thought, its a UGL not Pfizer. There will always be some type of discrepancies. Before calling out the source do a lab max or roidtest to at least back up your claim slightly. I dont care either way but check it.
That's all the response you received from OS? "send it to a lab" was their response. No explanation on color or label differences? Wow. I would've expected more from them. I been using them for years as my primary. Waiting on a few orders now from them. Always had good customer service.
That's a turn off right there. Hopefully you get it worked out.
Definitely gonna check my labels when my pack arrives.
Yea it’s unfortunate. I guess I’ll stop buying primo and start buying tren lol
This is interesting I just got some dragon test cyp 250 from os gear and it doesn’t have a red dragon on it either. Does this really mean it’s fake?? I haven’t used any yet..
Ive got test e, test c, both 250 and 400. Also deca 300. From dragon. All have the red underlining dragon. Its all ive ever see too. But the company i go through ships directly from dragon so im not buying it from someone else. And i have bloods backing the quality of the test.
I doubt they would make fake test. However it could mean that it wasn’t made by Dragon Pharma but someone using their logos and making them in their garage lol
Just went to check if the lot number checks out on dragon pharmas website and it doesn’t. Lot:DPTC-1807. However osgear checks out as their gold supplier so I have no idea
I received x3 dragon pharma cypionat 250 lot DPTC 1807 exp 07/2021 from naps. They did not have the red dragon on any of the three. The oil is clear looking. Did you ever determine if yours was good or not?
Damn that still scares me bro. I’m not sure if I’ll even run it now. I reached out to them too I guess we’ll see how the respond to me. I wonder if they have any info on dragon pharmas website.
I just received an order and my 3 vials of sus 350 which all had the red dragons. 2 of my 4 cypionate had the red dragons and the tren had the red dragon inside. when I checked the lot the number, it was off by 2 (lot 1805/1807) for the cypionate. I'm gonna try it this week so I guess I'll see if it's all good gear. I 'm assuming it's just a packaging difference
im Guess since yours is cheaper to make its most likely real vs primo
Interesting post. Have you contacted OS, what did they say? OS and their line has always treated me very well but it’s not to say things do go wrong. I’m sure they will offer to pay for it to be sent to be tested or something along those lines.
I did reach out to them and told them it was different and I got fever and night sweats. Then they just told me that they guaranteed their products and told me to send it to a lab for testing. (I don’t know where to send it)
then they said just get bloods done and that should be enough but how is bloods going to show if it’s fake or real primo?
They never offered to send me 2 new vials or give me store credit.
Sorry I know there’s a lot of fans and optimistic guys but without that ceramic painted red dragon on the vial I would call it counterfeit. I mean isn’t that why they do that? And if it changed then someone should be notified