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Non-Testosterone Cycle

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Summer cycle, I'll try to do for the first time a non-Test cycle, starting with drostanolone and mesterolone then will add stanozolol decreasing the drosta. Thanks to Musclerapid!

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Hunter2400's picture

Watching to see how this plays out

flacidego's picture

If you're not running test, there is a way to keep your balls online before you do PCT, but we couldn't expect you to be reasonable and lay out an unorthodox, but healthier method to running this "cycle" without test as a base, could we? Either way, what's your PCT looking like after you throw these tabs at your nuts?

flacidego's picture

Yeah. Don't run this cycle. It's not a cycle. You'll be setting yourself back and hurting yourself.

The Pharaoh's picture

Thanks bro for your comment.
That will be to lose general fat +chest fat, and to recover my old shape/clean muscles,
My cycle would be:
Winstrol +proviron x 4weeks
Drostanolone +proviron x 4 weeks
Pct, tamox x 40 days
Clomid x 30 days
I even have caber just in case.

flacidego's picture

No. That's all wrong, a waste of compounds, and isn't going to make you lose fat. Only diet does that.

The Pharaoh's picture

I really appreciate your advice, but maybe I explained it in a wrong way, it's not actually to lose fat but just to get some definition maintaining muscles.
I'll run that with a very moderate dosage, Winstrol is a very strong anabolic compound, derivate of DHT, chemically altered so that the hormone's anabolic properties r greatly amplified and its androgenic activity minimised. Proviron is a strong androgen with only a weak level of anabolic activity, it has a great ability to antagonize the aromatase enzyme with a high affinity for plasma binding proteins such as SHBG, also work to potentate the activity of other steroids by displacing a higher percentage into a free, unbound state.

flacidego's picture

Be that as it may, not running test with an oral is silly unless you're a woman. Proviron takes advantage of test when it's present. You're running without. So, why proviron? Winstrol is a DHT derivative as well. So is masteron. You're also wanting to run caber with compounds that don't call for it. You don't understand the science, you can copy and paste bits in a feeble attempt to sound knowledgeable, but you're missing the fundamentals...the elementary things most guys who cycle know. It's a no from me, dog. Quit while you're ahead and learn a bit more before you throw chemical hormones at your body that don't make sense.

Hustle28's picture

Have u ever ran something like this or ru winging this ?? We recommend that you research more before you go and waste time, money and gear that could be used for a more successful cycle

Hustle28's picture

Idk how winny and provi also drostan is going to help him cut weight ?? It doesn’t make sense to me but shit it might make sense to him

daksmack's picture

What’s the point of not adding test? Your asking for a lot of issues.

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Diesel-1's picture

These are androgenic compounds and will shut down your natural test production. I'm sure if you've done any kind of research you should know it's ill advised to run any AAS without at least a maintenance dose of test.

The Pharaoh's picture

Thanks for your comment, these are 2 anabolic compounds, and adding proviron(mesterolone) with each as an androgen will give you a certain balance, that when you're dieting to lower the body's fat, and can also antagonize the aromatase enzyme, which I'm looking for.