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-5 No cardio and diet is bad. Gear works

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Jim Seshbra's picture

Hey bubba, I’m a little late to this party. A couple months ago I posted a long intro as a cautionary tale. It’s the only reason I stopped lurking. You’re going to do what you’re going to do. Big ups!

Only thing I want to do here is reiterate what Press said. You, like me years ago, don’t have a crazy strong base yet. You’re muscles are going to get bigger and stronger, obviously, but ligament/tendon strength is going to lag - quite a bit. And steroids make your tendons weaker. So don’t start throwing up heavy weight just because you can now.

Another thing is that if you have imbalances in your body, they are only going to be amplified on steroids. Again, putting more stress on respective tendons. We all have some imbalances, but I don’t mean “my right arm is bigger than my left arm, so I’ll rep out a few more on the left.” I mean like daily postural imbalances which carry over into the weight room.

For example (years ago) - I’m right handed. Naturally, my right side is stronger and more coordinated. Left rotator cuff started acting up. Lifting 15 pounds above my head was very shaky and unstable. For some reason my left pec was bigger than my right though. I discovered that my left serratus anterior basically went dormant due to poor posture and scapular winging (shoulder blade sticks out). Some call it serratus amnesia. It’s a chicken-egg scenario, not sure which condition caused the other. Your serratus assists in many exercises, but especially bench. Because it was dormant, my left pec compensated for it and got bigger than my right. Left shoulder also compensated which caused more rotator cuff issues and an impinged nerve, which is why I couldn’t lift 15 pounds over my head with my left arm. Shit is frustrating. You have to put upper body on hold for months while you do rehab with bands and 5 pound dumbbells. All because I had bad posture, which was exacerbated by steroids because they made my imbalances more pronounced.

Long story short is, you need to have A LOT in check if you’re in it for the long run. Things most people don’t think of. So, you do you, but do yourself a favor and make sure you have fantastic form. Don’t shock the tendons by going heavy just because you can now. Work on the posterior chain (back) twice as much as the anterior (front). Good luck.

Jim Seshbra's picture

Sarcasm

Goose24's picture

Age: 23
Height: 5’11
Weight: 190
BF:

Sounds exactly what a 23 year older would say. -2

dimi4p's picture

True

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Halsey's picture

I seriously think he is a karma troll! And most <25 get banned.

press1's picture

Yep, I'm starting to think he's in it just for the wind up.

Serrajitsu0876's picture

You should try some Ralox for the nips. There’s been some good results and studies for gyno.

wanted's picture

Wow no cardio
Wow no good diet. Sounds like your bragging lol
Come on bro. Step the f_ck up and put some effort in and then brag Then you will look impressive

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wanted's picture

What we see is someone wasting potential. A waste of potential it like LIFE. DO IT RIGHT OR DONT DO IT AT ALL if all you want to be in mediocre that whatever. But strive for better. Strive to be your best

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wanted's picture

I feel sorry for you to be honest. We could have you looking better at your age then you look right now with proper diet
Where do you go from here. Its a waste of good genetics

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press1's picture

You are so damn immature with what you are coming out with its unbelievable - Give it a few more years with the road that you are clearly intent on going down, ending up in the hospital ER at 25 years old hooked up to an ECG and BP reader and then make sure you think back to this very forum post where you told us you had it all figured out. I'll happily add a -2 to your karma .....

press1's picture

I trained for about 6 years natural in total before I hit any steroids - was benching 350lb's and deadlifting 450 smart arse. Not training for 8 months then running trenbolone.

Well done - you've looked through some of the compounds I've used over about 6 years of using steroids.

We'll talk again in 3 years and see what health experiences you've enjoyed along the way, don't think you are some kind of tough experienced guy either just because you've run tren at 400mg.

press1's picture

Thats like saying you are into sprinting but don't care how fast you are - we are talking about lifting up big steel weights here, you do realise that??

The reason you should train naturally for at least 2 years prior to jumping on steroids is to get things such as ligaments/tendons and muscle up to a decent strength level before pushing them beyond their natural limits using steroids and then injuring yourself. 8 months is simply not long enough to do that, nor know how to properly execute an effective training plan and fully master proper lifting technique, along with diet and discipline needed.

I get the feeling though that you are one of these new Internet Snowflake breeds who wants a quick result overnight - then you can get your camera phone out whilst you still have a little gym pump on and get yourself stood underneath that bright downfacing light in the bathroom for a new weekly photo to put on FB.

press1's picture

Ohh no - Please keep responding to our BS and grace us all with your vast 4 months of knowledge .....

maddogg's picture

It’s because you are too young, could probably look that good with diet training and rest at 23. Then the drugs can take it to a higher level. Drugs last not first, you will never know or reach your full potential otherwise.

HGHDaddy's picture

Brother, you look so good. Of course, you know better, but I'm in favor of caerdio and weight training at the same time. The reason is, if we only practice weight loss with cardio, we'll lose our muscles. But if we do both cardio and weight at the same time, we will maintain our muscles and lose weight only from fat. Of course, you know better, it's just my opinion. but as a result, you're definitely doing this well.

GrowMore's picture

Keith has you covered bro he’s got sound advice.

I’d watch your prolactin as that far nipple looks even wonkier than the tent I pitched last time I was to a cider festival.

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GrowMore's picture

Have you tired one of the following:

Aromasin, mast, ralox, Nolvadex, letro or caber?

A droopy nipple like that would have me believe there’s some kind of prolactin going on. I would run nolvadex 20mg Ed for a few months and caber at .5 twice a week. You’d be surprised how effective that combo is.

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freeflyer's picture

Yep, thats why I asked in thread earlier if he was using a anti-estrogen or estrogen blocker, was not sure if it was the camera angle but those nips looked very odd. Good to point out the prolactin concern. Nolvadex with Caber is a solid protocol to correct issue.

Halsey's picture

Live it up!

Zalewski's picture

Well tell us what you’re running before you brag

press1's picture

So you've only been training for 8 months before jumping on gear?

Or should that be training for 8 months natural then injecting Trenbolone? At 23 ....

keithkirby90057's picture

Bro, Lots of people are going to give you shit for running Tren and steroids in general at such a young age where you could still make plenty of gains with your natural test production. I am not one to judge a person and understand you are going to do what you are going to do. I did not listen at all to the advice of others at your age myself. However just some friendly advice, I genuinely want the best for you. If you are going to run an oral only do one and use liver protection such as tudca, NAC, milk thistle. Make sure you have a proper PCT in place and make sure to get blood work often. This is a marathon not a sprint. You can make the same gains you are making now with less gear a promise you that. More is not always better. I learned the hard way. Like I said I'm not condoning gear use at your age but if you are going to do it it is best to be as health conscious as possible. Good luck bro

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Zalewski's picture

Well I’d hope you’re lean on that. Also a tab from noexcuses is 50mg each right, for the winny and anavar

freeflyer's picture

Are u using any anti-estrogen or estrogen blocker?

Pxpxp's picture

Very young to start bro. I am now on TRT because I messed around with hormones at a young age.. no one could have changed my mind back then. So, I’m not going to waste my time.

So, I would advise you to wait!!! , but your an adult-so be careful...

Looking good bro.

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