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+ 19 Mgt biological IGF-1 result

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This is 5iu taken daily before bed for 7-8 days prior to test. No ai's or serms being taken. Let the source know and they are actively trying to figure out why the result is so low. My baseline was around 200. There is gh in there but how much is unknown, maybe the liquid is not totally stable, I'm no expert, just a thought

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TrenAllDay's picture

I dont think this number is that good actually. I got some new aqua that was delivered to me when the temp was around 60 something degrees. This aqua I ran, it was 90ish degrees outside when delivered, so we’ll see how it compares.

I also ran gh serum on this and it was 6ng for a 10iu pin, which shows it degraded, 6ng is more like 3iu (2 points per iu)

So I thought I was doing 5iu, but it was actually more like 2iu, which this number makes sense for 2iu

Let me know if that doesn’t make sense haha

PPGfreak's picture

What was the level/number you were hoping for? What was the best number you've seen so far from 5iu ed?

After seeing your number I decided to run mine at 7.5 to play it safe. I want to be over 300

+2 for blood work

TrenAllDay's picture

I think 5iu should put me between 400-500 igf-1, I got bloods coming up again end of this month so I’m going to try doubling the dose I was taking, so it’ll be “10iu” but with the amount it degraded, if my pure genius math calculations are correct it’ll be more like 3-4iu haha

OneQ's picture

Hello guys. So.
I have something to share with you.

1) We tested our product:
*At temperature 30°С -> lifetime 3-4 weeks (we did this test ~ 1,5 months ago)
*At temperature 40°С -> lifetime 30-35 Hours
*At temperature >40-50°С -> only few hours and quick destruction of the product
As you may know GH is a protein structure and we can't fully protect them for high temperature impact.

2) We checked regions/arrival dates/delivery time for those who have bad results -> outside temperature in regions: 27-41°С !
Also there is can be direct sunlight impact during transportation and temperature can increase ...
I can't share dates/time, but trust me, it's enough to crash the product. Unfortunately.

So, we decide to not send any product in regions with temperature >22°С due to high risk of crash of product.

If you live in region with high temperature outside -> please DO NOT BUY our AQUA product.
Ofc for the future we will try to find a way to work with "hot" regions. But for now DO NOT BUY our AQUA if temperature will be >22°С for a 2 weeks after you place an order.

We are also will see the other results from testers to confirm this impact. But for now it looks the only 1 reason for bad results.

giardap's picture

I am trying to find a bloods place that will do igf on request. Ive run the tap dry with my GP.
Ill put some more time in tomorrow. I have a spot in the uk but the courier costs might be prohibitive. Gotta get the blood there in 24 hours they say.
Ill do my best tho and if can sort a test ill start pinning straight away

TrenAllDay's picture

There lies my problem then...

Manshit's picture

Buy the shit you have to reconstitute.The powder is stable until mixed,plus its usually cheaper.This is international shipping as well and even by his own test its only stable for four weeks in perfect conditions.It can take that long to clear customs.

BigWA67's picture

Well then if it goes thru California customs then its a no go??

OneQ's picture

It's always 1 customs, every time. And it's not California.
From customs point of view, temperature since end of Sept - is OK

BigWA67's picture

Ok thanks i should be ok then it hasnt been to warm where im at

bigrick2017's picture

Damn that sucks I live in a cold climate but of course we just had a heat wave while the pack was coming to me

OneQ's picture

Murphy's Law? =\

bigrick2017's picture

It's OK buddy I think It was just within the 30 degrees you said

giardap's picture

So I just googled this and found another series of forum testers coming back with the same sort of results and a reference to getting users here to test more... which is fine, but it's clearly yielding a repeated result....
With more than 1 result, is it not clear that the product is either not right or degrading in transit?

OneQ's picture

On the other board I sent incorrect product, which can crashed during transportation.
I wrote about it and resend correct items to the same testers.

Will see what they will show.
But yes, always have a chance to crash "modified" batch as well.
In this case we will try to find other solution to solve transport issue if it will occur

giardap's picture

Ah,

Do you think it's the way your preservatives are working dude?

What do you yourself think at this stage?

OneQ's picture

We never sent our items so far away. And we don't have 100% confidence that the product will arrive at same condition as we send. That's why we are here and that's why we send >50 free kits.
I agree that for now there is no good reason to buy our product untill more tests will be uploaded.
We will wait, will collect more data. And then we will improve the product again if in needed, our specialists already know that in the nearest future they can got a lot of work)
Powder form it's one of the ways which can be implemented if liquid form will fail at all
Also we are know a lot of factors which can show bad results on good GH.

Also I try to get some info from the people who received packages in the same date as Tren, packages from same batch, same shipment date, same plane. And if they will told me that GH is sucks - I can be absolutely sure that product were crashed during transportation.

That's what we do

giardap's picture

Understood
Thanks for the detailed answer, hope it works out for you guys

OneQ's picture

However we will find a way. It can take some time/money but we finally will find

Dope's picture

Tren my dawg , thanks for do this for us and test fast , greatly appreciated homie , much respect

Now , number is low for 5iu , very low to be precise, but i like MGT and how he handling this

Man is proud of his product and service , he not hide anything

We should work with him and help him find the problem

I will assist any way i can

Respect

Dope

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TrenAllDay's picture

Yes of course! I agree he's handling it very well and wants to figure out what's going on.

OneQ's picture

Hope to see more bloods.
We need to understand if this low levels due to some body features, or our product can't keep its properties during transportation.
Let' see more.

Dope's picture

I will pull igf too , only is very expensive here , bit is ok , you did great promo

I drop the gh i was on since we talked, will stay off 2 weeks then test igf with Neofin aqua after 10 days at 5 iu

I have done this many times with many gh , i not know my baseline , but usually on legit gh i get 350-500 igf with this protocol

Not using ais , or serms , or other igf lowering drugs and my liver is healthy

Respect

Dope

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TrenAllDay's picture

Didn't the powder form test well?

twistedsister's picture

Agreed we will see i think run em longer before pulling bloods personally but we will see theres many factors that can come into play and at least you sent all these out for the community to test.

Any plans on bringing the Neofin light back (unreconstituted) ?

OneQ's picture

I think it will be one of the way which we can use.
But first - let's see the other results

enhancedlife's picture

Glad I passed on these. Went with ifit hgh instead

bigsmitty's picture

I have seen some less than stellar results on another forum as well.

HailRazor's picture

Thanks for testing

Didn't you get similar results on another popular "blue top generic" where you thought they were bunk.....I can't find that post.....did you erase it?

TrenAllDay's picture

Yea, I was running other compounds and restested without those compounds, and my igf went up a bit, but the pain through my arm and sides I was getting, I had to stop it

bigrick2017's picture

Have you noticed any side effects with mgt's hgh?

TrenAllDay's picture

No but I've been on the same amount of gh prior to starting his, I just switched over

HailRazor's picture

Did you come off the privious brand for 1-2 weeks before starting the new GH......or did you just switch from one brand to the next with no break?

TrenAllDay's picture

Just switched no break. Have always done that, hasn't seemed to be a problem

HailRazor's picture

Ooof!

Yea....I think it's best to see other results

Like myself or Dope....we've done enough blood work with different brands to compare the results to (but you have to come off one brand first)

Your results have been all over the place

No IGF1 elevation to 610 IGF1 on only 4ius

But....you can't just run one brand into the other without letting your IGF1 come to a resting point first (to test or compare GH)

This isn't a good blood work result ...or protocol to judge his GH

Sorry

TrenAllDay's picture

Damn ok. I'll come off then redo

Generator's picture

I'd wash out for around 10 days then pull baseline bloods before starting a new gh, unless you are not testing and don't care, but for this you need a clean slate.

HailRazor's picture

Cool

++s for the effort

TrenAllDay's picture

Haha thanks.

But 191aa is 191aa isn't it? In that case, how would your body be able to recognize a different brand? Just trying to understand without doing the not knowing why.

HailRazor's picture

Like running 2 brands of Test at the same time then doing bloods

Sometimes if your running a cheap generic it can start an immune response and lower IGF1 (Pharma can do this as well)

It could cause a resistance even to the new brand introduced.....this is just one example

It's best to clear previous GH used....get iGF1 to resting (baseline).....then introduce the new GH to compare

This source (MGT) mentioned this also when testing his GH

TrenAllDay's picture

Ah ok I see. Thanks. I got my 6 month bloodwork coming up in 3 weeks so I'll get my baseline there then run a test after.

Is it not advised then to run, which I was doing previously, half pharma and half generic?

HailRazor's picture

Ahhh....I gotcha

I guess not much sides on these at 5 IUs ?

TrenAllDay's picture

Didn't have any. Did gh serum as well. The 10iu came out to 6.6ng/ml...that's more around 3.1iu (assuming 1iu raises your gh serum 2 points), according to my math, I'd say that 5iu I was supposedly doing, was more like 1.5iu. My baseline igf around 200, I think 1.5iu ed would put me at this 263ng/ml mark.

twistedsister's picture

Damn not what i had hoped i pulled 329 off 2iu a day of another brand ... thanks for posting +1

333's picture

Right on my man +1

BigWA67's picture

Definatly was hoping to see better numbers + for posting

Gettingbig's picture

Shit I've been waiting for one of these 2 pop up to order. I guess that's on hold.
Thanks tren+100

BigWA67's picture

Guess i should have waited before i grabbed a couple extra on top of the promo kit hopefully. If the numbers are low like trenallday mgt will make it right

TrenAllDay's picture

Yea I'm sure they would