posted Fri, 09/20/2013 - 19:49
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So this is about 4 weeks after I finished PCT. Some values are are oddly high though. I wonder whats causing that? I am not really taking supps (other than protein and MACHA green tea) or medications. Any input is appreciated.
When I saw that my test was so high I was shocked because my baseline was so much lower! Must have been a bad day...
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Your not natty yet. Once that high LH drops test will drop and stabilize
Give us some compounds and timeline for use as well as pct and bloodwork.
I ran Test C for 12 weeks. There was some dbol in there too. HCG @ 500iu a week. Aro @ 6.25 eod
PCT was 4 weeks Clomid 100/100/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20
bloods are 4 weeks after pct
thanks doss
AnonYea remeber both Clomid and Nolvadex kick start the pituritary gland to spit out LH
And HCG mimics LH so that explains ur high LH levels
Your test levels look normal for being on Clomid and Nolvadex they have half-lifes of 5-7days. My Test levels were at 920 but i only did 50mg.
Remeber half life means that half the Mg goes away in a specific time range.
As for estrodoil maybe u need more aromasin
Doss knows how to use aromasin Ive never messed wit it
I personally like Arimidex IMO
Your pct ancillaries have a longer residual effect than most people realize. The magic number for post pct labs is generally 6-8 weeks following end of pct. IMO the longer the better to make sure you're looking at natty levels.
Looking at your e2 numbers, I'm leaning towards aromasin was stopped before pct and e2 climbed. Which means we're now looking at a slightly elevated level but after declining, if I'm making sense.
In your case, estrogen is produced by the process of aromatization via an enzyme. We know that test aromatizes, but some people fail to realize that other compounds do as well. Dbol and hcg are two examples for aromatizing compounds, so a higher AI dose is needed to regulate.
Your bloodwork doesn't look bad to me, but it's not baseline. LH is high from the SERMs that still haven't phased out completely. Since FSH and LH stimulate production of testosterone, you can expect correlating levels between the hormones. Looking at what you said, I'm assuming there was at least a 2 week gap between cycle and pct + 4 weeks of pct + 4 weeks til bloodwork. That's 10 weeks between BW and last pin. Serum levels wouldn't be from exogenous test.
AnonThere u go dropping that knowledge
for real... Guys like doss make this place second to none.
AnonDam didnt notice u explained everything already lol
That really explains so much. Thank you.
AnonHow many Lbs did u keep after PCT
About 10lbs which I'm very happy about because I got the stomach flu at the very end of my cycle and couldn't really work out or eat for 5 days. I dropped down to 180 and (started cycle) at 175 but now I'm 185 in the am and about 187 at night.
AnonSo how many pounds did u loose?
What was the highest weight u got too while on cycle?
199
AnonDam u lost a good amount
PCT aint only clomid and Nolvadex that helps your Test levels. There is other hormones involved that need to be regulated
1000-1500mg of Vitamin C helps lower Catabolic hormones as well as Gingko bibola and Rhondiola
If u check one of my forums in my profile u can see my pct i gained 16lbs and only lost 2lbs but then gained them back later on.
You're welcome.
How were your sides from end of cycle to end of pct?
Had some acne in the end of the cycle that cleared up and then midway thru PCT it came back. It actually has just cleared up again. Other that that I felt great the entire pct.
Most likely estro related due to low AI dose paired with discontinued AI. Next cycle, let's try to match that AI dose with the compound dosing schedule as well as time the discontinuation of the AI with the natty reset. It'll help with that acne.
Right on, you're the man. Thanks for taking the time bro.