posted Sat, 07/19/2025 - 01:07
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+ 11 K4L Dragon, 10IU/day IGF-1
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IGF-1 results after taking 10IU of Dragon K4L HGH. I would dilute one vial (40iu each) with 3mL of bac water, so 40iu/3mL = 13.33iu/mL, I would inject 0.77mL of that diluted vial, so 0.77x13.33 =10.264. Been doing dragon for around 2 months. I’m also showing my thyroid panel, which was significantly affected by the HGH, high T3 conversion from the T4, that’s why it’s low. Prolactin slightly elevated from the HGH, not from estradiol since I have that controlled at 44, so a tiny bit elevated. I’m the past I’ve had way higher estradiol and prolactin never thigh high.
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Highest score I’ve seen in all my years here. Prior to this was serostim, 9iu per day scoring a 900. I’m not calling bs because you have no reason to lie but this is pretty unbelievable. Would be cool if legit since I use this source.
What does it feel like to have a 1314 igf score? Probably amazing. Thanks for sharing +1
Yeah it’s pretty wild, I don’t believe it myself tbh, was expecting 600 or something else like from other labs I’ve seen. Maybe it was a mistake by the analyzer used in that lab? Idk. But I can provide more proof if necessary, the same results are listed on the bio reference website and also goodlabs, both with different font and spacing so would be more believable. I also made sure to keep dose at 10iu per day at the same time. 1300 doesn’t feel much different than lower, the only difference is that while running TRT level of test it feels more like I’m blasting, it’s weird, idk how to explain it. I’m still progressing weights/reps/etc but in a different way than just steroids. Also sides are barely felt at all. My fasting insulin is really feeling it though, so I’m gonna go down to 4 or 5.
WoooAAHHHH There buddy - Holy Shit - Is that even REAL???!!! Damn that's a High Ass IGF-1 level right there.
I would be careful though as I believe it can be too high and become dangerous if you want to live a long and healthy life mate.
Ferritin Level is low pal - I would get that looked at unless you already know the reason why its like that. 30 over here and under and you are classed as Anaemic.
Yeah I’m lowering my dose down to 5iu per day, when I read that acromegaly levels can get that high and all the negative effects from high as hell IGF I got scared. As far as the ferritin goes I’m gonna get that checked out further, never had any anemic-type issues, pretty weird. I’m still shocked at how high it is, still going back and making sure I was actually injecting 10iu. But yeah I would make sure to calculate every single time so I’d get this accurate.
Ferritin is mostly a marker of stored iron. Simple fix is to add in more red meat, liver, or other sources of iron.
That's crazy! Post a pic of your torso including arms (dont post your face), not to judge you but to see how far you can take this. If you have the proper frame and growth ability I would suggest you get a bodybuilding coach asap. Only a few percentage of individuals can achieve those numbers and they are the top bodybuilders. Also check your myostatin levels to see how much your body will resist your muscles from growing. If your myostatin is low enough you are one of the lucky ones.
High Igf-1 + low myostatin = crazy growth
(Assuming you are dedicated and disciplined enough to achieve this.)
I really don’t think I have the frame or any other good genetics for BB. I respond moderately to AAS, I’ve been using mostly androgens for the past three years (started enhanced training beginning of 2022), and my results have been mild. My training could definitely be better and my nutrition too, but overall I’m super mid. I probably have a growth hormone receptor that responds better, that’s why I have a crazy high IGF-1 response. I definitely think I respond better to GH than androgens. Like 6 months ago I tried 16iu of K4L HGH and had the worst sides; pain all over my muscles and joints, sometimes would get feverish after injection for like a few hours, like I was burning up, and then it would go away. No labs from then unfortunately.
Even with perfect numbers it takes years to grow properly and still you have to bust your ass. Having the right genetics for growth is not a free pass, still you have to do all the work. The only difference is your end result might be different from others. Don't dismiss the fact that you might be genetically inclined to grow. Train your ass off and eat properly. In a few years you might see a different you.
Test your myostatin levels.
Good stuff!
Amazing results there. Thanks for sharing this.
Damn man that is really good !
Forgot to add dosing frequency: 10iu every day, bolus given before bed time, so I administered all of it around 8pm every night. The blood was drawn at 830am.
Holy shit! ! That’s the highest IGF-1 I’ve ever seen. I wonder what your baseline was?
Never tested baseline but I’m guessing high? I made sure to calculate and recalculate and measure syringe every single time that I administered. Wanted to get accurate data. I’m guessing I have growth hormone receptors that create large amounts of IGF-1, looked some stuff up. Kinda wanna do genetic testing to see if I carry it. I think acromegaly numbers are around here so I’m probably gonna back off soon.
It’s hard to say if naturally you’re high or if you just respond really well to GH and your liver produces a ton of IGF-1. For our age range acromegaly is defined as at or above 640 lol. So you’re more than double that.
Probably worth coming down a bit on the dose. At that kind of GH dose you really have to start adding in other things to manage some of the negative effects of it. And that gets complicated.
That’s actually a solid IGF-1 response 1314 is easily 8–10x your natural baseline, especially after two months. Dragon seems to be doing its job.
You’re spot on noticing the thyroid shift GH does increase peripheral T4 to T3 conversion, which can lower serum T4 while keeping T3 in range or even slightly elevated. That’s a sign your GH is biologically active, not just inert peptides. It’s a good marker. Also worth keeping an eye on glucose and insulin sensitivity that’s often where things go sideways with 10+ IU/day long-term. You can manage it though:
Berberine, Metformin, or L****(can mention cause is taboo but IFYK) - (in advanced setups)
Timed carb intake around GH shots
Low-GI diet and regular fasted blood glucose checks
The slight prolactin bump is likely from GH, yeah … it tends to increase pituitary activity overall. Since your estradiol is in check, there’s nothing to panic about, but if it keeps creeping, Cabergoline microdosing can flatten that curve fast.
Overall, you’re on a great track real GH, strong markers, and clear physiological response. Keep logging it and maybe do a fasted glucose + insulin panel next to track insulin resistance early.
Yeah I’m pretty surprised how high the IGF-1 level is, thought it would be around 700, but 1300, that’s crazy high. Haven’t seen numbers that high before on bloodwork from other people. My fasted insulin is starting to creep up a bit so have some things to buffer from it. I’m on TRT level of testosterone with high HGH and it’s crazy how effective it is. Feels like I’m on high test and some stimulants.
Safer to start with P5P and/or vitamin E? Or do those supps not help manage prolactin as efficiently as I've heard?
Right ! Definitely safer to start with P5P (active B6) and vitamin E especially if prolactin is just slightly elevated or borderline. Both can help manage prolactin naturally without risking dopamine receptor desensitization, which can happen with Cabergoline if used unnecessarily or long term.
Since he’s on TRT, he’s likely already on a mild AI like 0.25–0.5mg of Arimidex weekly, which can also indirectly help prolactin by keeping estradiol in check. But it’s good to remember: high prolactin isn’t always caused by high estrogen … sometimes it’s from the compound itself (e.g., 19-nors), stress, sleep issues, or even GH usage.
Caber is great when it’s needed, but should be the last step( even though i thought was valid to mention that ) not the first. Always start with lifestyle, vitamins, AI (if needed), and only jump to Caber if bloods + symptoms clearly call for it.
why wouldn't you mix with 2ml of water to make math and measurements easier??
Honestly, just chose 3 and ran with it. Wasn’t planning on changing doses at this point, was more a trial.