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6 kits of orange tops. 16 days to my door. Thanks for the great customer service iron ! Will be pulling bloods on these and keep you guys posted on results

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bundlz's picture

You will not be disappointed im stretching the max out of my last kit lol have a great run!

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boz645's picture

Nice!! I'm jealous lol +1

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Haze421's picture

Thanks bro. Can’t wait to get started

Jjohnbubby5's picture

Ironlion is great gh. I only run this and a different supplier. I have a couple of bloods results I uploaded

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Haze421's picture

I only hear good things about iron. Will be pulling bloods too.

ironlion's picture

welcome, enjoy it , Smile

Haze421's picture

Thanks Iron. Appreciate the great customer service

Haze421's picture

I definitely will !!!

TnTerror88's picture

Hell yeah man. Mine updated too. I’m ready for them.

Haze421's picture

You should be getting them in the next day or so. Mine came in a couple days after it updated.

Makwa's picture

How much you planning on running?

Haze421's picture

I’m thinking I’m going to start at 3iu and see how i feel and work up to 5iu.

Makwa's picture

I was using the grey tops and capped it at 6iu. Went up to 10iu for a bit but made me so sleepy I could barely stay awake. 5iu is a good dose if on cycle.

Haze421's picture

I’m going on cycle after the new year (maybe sooner) but on my cruise I usually run 3iu. Any carpal tunnel when you ran it at higher doses ?

Makwa's picture

Very minimal if you ramp the dose up slowly.

Gh0st's picture

I’m planning on trying 7.5IU EOD with the greys. GH has never had that drowsy effect for me thankfully.

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Makwa's picture

That was the first time it made me feel like a zombie. Just went back to 6iu and I felt fine again. Was really weird how sleepy I was all the time.

Haze421's picture

What’s the benefit of EOD dosing? I’ve always ran it every day 7 days a week.

Gh0st's picture

In the literature there is some evidence of higher IGF-1 levels. We’ll see how it looks on my labs. I’ve already started the protocol (8iu) with another brand. Getting labs tomorrow am.

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Haze421's picture

Cool. Let me know what your labs look like. Thanks !

Gh0st's picture

They’ll be posted here next week soon as they result brother. Always do

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HanginLow's picture

very interested in this, so are you doing 8iu EOD, split 4iu 2x a day I am guessing? not sure if you said above

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Gh0st's picture

Hey brother, nope actually just once daily fasted like 6am. Woke up this morning at 4 and dosed. Heading for labs now!

A lot of things I’m looking at in these labs. Test level with return to Cyp ester if you remember my issues w Sust. I added in a low dose Parabolan with my test and primo I wanna see how that’s effected my lipids. Tried to Isolate for that as best I could by removing all orals including Proviron about 18 days ago. And of course the new GH protocol EOD pulse with double the dose I was doing. I should say it hasn’t been technically EOD it’s been Sunday, MWF. Majority of the days I’m training.

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HanginLow's picture

8iu fasted in the morning? Damn! I personally like the single dosing though for creating higher peak IGF-1 and keeping sensitivity, interested to see your feedback

I wonder what mechanism the tiredness comes from, might be insulin resistance/system related as I was pounding 1k carbs during my 5iu, I know there is genetic variability as well I just might be sensitive to GH, being taller I wonder if there is a correlation

low dose parabolan is an idea I have been tossing around for my next push, like 100mg in the background, hex is a much longer and easier ester on the body, I think they knew that when they made it

will be tuning in brother

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Gh0st's picture

Yessir. I’ll Post them up with my thoughts soon as they’re in. I always thought it was weird too that GH never made me sleepy. I have gotten some pretty bad carpal tunnel in the past but that’s been better since I’ve been treating my HTN with an ARB. So I do think the RAAS plays a role there.

I just put up a review on it. I’m not sure I’m going to continue with the cons currently possibly outweighing the pros. I’m using 150mg/week. If my lipids are really shot I will probably switch to NPP and try that for the first time. Thinking 300mg/wk. never have given that a solid go.

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HanginLow's picture

Interesting RAAS is related to CT, I will have to look into that, I also prophylactically use an ARB, the classic Telm, during pushes but I do not really put clients on it as I am more leery of putting people on BP meds, I keep an eye on my potassium of course, I really try and get them to get it from a doc if BP rises or there is a lot of water retention in a off season scenario, also for quality of medication

does deca crank your estradiol up in the presence of moderate testosterone?

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Gh0st's picture

It’s just a matter of the sodium and Aldosterone mechanism. Water retention increasing CTS symptoms. Any pressure increase in that tendon sheath is going to contribute.

Yeah I would never put someone on something prophylactically without reason. But with two consistently high reading in combination with gear use I’ll start an ACE or ARB all day. Esp if there’s any kidney impairment.

Per the nandrolone I’ve legit never run deca. And my one run with NPP in the past was very brief I cut it short due to uncontrolled BP so never had labs done to see what it looked like. There was Anadrol in play there though twice daily I didn’t use it like I do now as just a pwo. I’m going to be repeating labs with grey tops in 4-6 weeks same protocol but likely sub NPP instead of Hex and we’ll see if my E2 changes significantly. I’m not too concerned about it as my glands were removed and we both know how important E2 is for growth. Never had other issues

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HanginLow's picture

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9176179/#:~:text=The%20data%20demonstrat....
learning things every day, was not aware GH interacted with RAAS, did not click but makes painfully obvious sense when I think about it, I was not on Telm due to my BP being in range during that 5iu blast, gear was low, good info thanks

Yeah I just worry about people using polypharmacy for AUX now like I had this one kid come to me and he was running: Metformin, Nebivolol, Telm, daily cialis (toms protocol) and he was like 170lbs a little soft and I am like why are you running all these, when I made him get a BP monitor (he didnt have one but on 2-3 BP meds if you count the Tad), he was hypotensive and had high CRP when I made him get bloods probably from the polypharmacy, I worry about this trend

yeah if you have no glands then no problem with 300 NPP, I like it a little lower personally, it messes with my head as progestins can, I think you will have good results

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Gh0st's picture

The more we learn right!
And I agree polypharm is a terrible trend man I work hard against it daily.

Thanks brother. Hoping so

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Makwa's picture

3iu

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Ironlion makes good shit. Only HGH I use.

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Haze421's picture

I’m looking forward to running it !

Haze421's picture

Thanks !