+ 1 IGF-1 Test came back. Numbers seem right, but this is my first time testing and using HGH, so would love feedback.
Been on HGH from this source for 5 weeks now. I started at 2 IU a day split, but quickly titrated up to 4 iU daily, split AM/PM in the second week and have been there ever since. I've been considering going up to as high as maybe 6 but I'm switching sources for the next two months so I'll probably stay at 4 for a bit to see if theres a difference in the quality. I've had no noticeable side effects yet. Injecting at night seems to make me sleepy, but I don't notice it as much in the morning.
My base IGF before starting was 179 ng/mL. For reference, I'm a 40-year-old male, 5'11.5, current weight is 228ish. 23.1% body fat. Been cutting over a year, down from 317 lbs. Trying to get to sub 20% BF. As I mentioned in another post, I've been steadily losing weight and a tiny bit of muscle over the duration of this long cut. Recently, I've become a bit burnt out on dieting and the Tirzepatide I was on became less and less effective. I lost coverage for it and have been off it about 2 weeks now with no noticeable changes in hunger or appetite so I believe it wasn't really doing anything there at the end even though I was at 15mg.
I was in a -1000 calorie deficit, but now I'm more in the 300-500 calorie deficit range on average. This last dexa scan has be losing 9 lbs of fat, and gaining 4 lbs of muscle over the last 3 months. This is the first time I've gained a significant amount of muscle in the year's worth of DEXA scans that I've got. I guess it could be water weight from the HGH as well, but I don't feel like I'm retaining more water, and usually the water retention is what causes pain in the joints and wrists. Since I don't have that pain I assume the water retention is minimal so far. Also, I feel like I've seen visual growth over the last few months. Not to mention I went from not being able to do wide grip pulls up now being able to do 2 in a row over the last 3 months. So at least some of it is muscle.
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Pin to test is the key on igf1. Noone discusses that anymore. Pin with test at 3hrs mark gets the peak numbers. 331 without pin to test....looks good
Pretty good results for cheap generics.
Yeah my first cycle with it. I’ll see how the K4L GH goes in a few weeks
I’m debating on running some of theres next, since there’s been so much debate on the quality. Jano testing showing an extremely high quality product even surpassing pharma grade standards, while bloodwork has been a bit inconsistent. I know exactly where I should be on a given dose so i could put it to bed.
Not bad. That’s a good number for. 4 iu 12 hour split. Really good. Some of its work off after 12 hours so that a good nimber
If you took 4 iu all at once you would probably be closer to 400ng/dl
Might be a stupid question and I apologize I’m just now really learning about GH. Obviously reports have shown elevated igf1 can accelerate cancer. If I were to be around where this guy is like at the peak of normal or alittle over is that still a safe zone? Or any gh you put in the body has the same risk? I’m getting ready to run it my first time and I’m not looking for massive gains just health benefits maybe some fat loss. Is it possible to do 2-3iu and still be in a safe range? I mean I’m doing it either way but would like more info or your thoughts on this
Yeah I took 2 iu about 3 hours before the test because I split dose. What’s a “good” number range? This 2 iu puts me just outside of high normal. I’m thinking that’s pretty good for my age, but wonder if I should be shooting for 500 or something? I’m going to nitrate up till i feel sides.
I do 4 iu and that puts my about 380+
Thats not bad IGF-1 levels. I have seen a lot worse on here and other forums of people blasting 8+ IUs daily. HgH has been a blessing for me. First time running it was this year and Im excited with everything Ive learned and experienced while taking HgH, to put that to use over this next winter bulk. Have you tried switching the tirzepatide for reta? My wife absolutely loves reta and the results shes seen from it. I can say this, if you are wanting to switch brands, from my experience, K4l, has some of the best HgH avaliable. I have had nothing but great results from thei products.
K4L is the brand I’m trying now. I haven’t started the Reta but I’ve ordered it also from K4L
Why do you wanna switch brands? I have seen terrible IGF-1 results on here and people are on 4 iu -8 iu. Looks like your HGH works just fine. Is there anything wrong? Are there any bad sides?
Well I needed to order more before I ran out and at the time I wasn’t sure if it was working. I haven’t had any side effects, but I also hadn’t noticed anything positive either. As I said my weight had been staying the same and it wasn’t until the DEXA scan I was sure that Inhad actually lost weight and put on muscle. Now that my IGf came back good I would definitely order more.
I needed to order some other stuff this source doesn’t sell and the source I went with had a high minimum order and well reviewed HGH so I decided to go with that for my next batch. We’ll see if it works as well. It’s recently come under fire for some bad test results.
You’re 44. You went from base 179 to 331. I’m 44 and I did my base blood on Monday and came out 197 ng/ml and z score 0.7. I’m hopping on hgh tomorrow morning, starting 2 iu ed am, fasted. I wonder what my results will be in 6 weeks. I hope it will be similar to yours because your igf-1 jump is good. My hgh is Ultima.
2iu will typically put you in the 200s. With a 197 baseline it may not be worth doing 2iu. Exogenous GH doesn’t add to your natural production, it shuts you down and replaces it. So you don’t want to pay just to replace what you were making naturally. Might need 3iu. But definitely start low like 2 and work up. He’s in the 300s because he’s in 4iu. For most people 2 won’t get you there.
I know we discussed this in my other thread but from what I’ve read a low dose like that only in the morning might not be enough to shut down production for the nightly pulse.
Also I only took 2 iu before the test but was there enough igf from the dose the night before? Is that why I was in the 300 range?
What you take before the test doesn’t really matter for IGF-1. This isn’t a GH serum test where it spikes at a certain time and is very short acting. IGF-1 is much more long acting and stable. So your levels are the cumulative result of taking 4iu for days, not from taking 2iu before the test. Your last 5-6 days worth of shots are all still in your system to different extents.
I pulled my IGF-1 the other day on 4ius of pharm grade GH and was 425. Close to or over 400 is where you should be 4iu of GH. But I’m paying $4 an iu for Pham grade and you’re paying $1 an iu for generics so you can’t expect the same results. I’d be relatively happy at 331 on 4iu of generics. You could bump up the dose if you wanted by an iu or 2 and probably match me and still be spending alot less.
itszoot89You both are lucky ! My igf1 baseline is 116 I’m like touching the bottom of the range sadly. I started my Hgh a few days ago at 2.5iu am fasted as well. First time user, dreams have been vivid and wild since first injection, I’ll be getting retested in 3 weeks.