+ 10 IGF-1 Levels on 4iu Omnitrope
Been running these for a little over 2 weeks now. 425 IGF-1 on 4ius is right where I’d except on legit pharm grade GH. While HGH pharmas shipping is ridiculously fast from the other side of the world, 2 days, I was still a bit concerned on what effect that would have on preconstituted GH in the dead of summer. Especially because the manufacturer says they shouldn’t be out of the fridge for more than 30 mins, and these were out for like 48hrs. But it appears it had no negative effect on it. Still, I like ordering this kind of GH, or any really in the cooler months. But sometimes it’s unavoidable and you have to order in the summer.
No real side effects, as is the norm for me on clean pharm grade GH. Maybe a tiny bit of water retention.
I’m Taking 2iu first thing in the morning before fasted cardio and 2iu right before bed. All shots are IM.
Anyone running GH and doing bloodwork should atleast do a short run on pharm grade so you can establish an accurate baseline on a given dose. You really only need to run it for about a week before pulling IGF-1, so it’s not that expensive. But then when you go back to cheaper generics you know where you should be and you’re not guessing if the generic GH is properly dosed. But in general if you’re on 4ius and you’re not anywhere close to 400, you’re not on 4ius. You really should be getting around 100ng/ml per iu. But, some of these generics are so cheap that if you have to up the dose a bit to compensate, it’s not a big deal in my mind. Still very reasonably priced even at higher doses. I got about 7 weeks worth of these left. Haven’t decided if I’ll continue with pharm grade or go generic, or maybe a mix of both.
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Hello my friend @irongame427,
It's awesome number .... Lot people need to use 6-10 ui's depend the brand (quality of the rHGH and other things as liver health, hygiene of life....)
When you say " in I.M" you talk about what muscle ? I think deltoids ?
I'm very happy for you in one side, but in another side ...please take some pause because high IGF-1 level, it can regenerate very good cells as well as regenerate bad cells (I'm thinking of polyps as well as cancer cells).
I add +1 for the blood work and details of protocol very well explain (•ө•)♡
PS : i'm like you actually i plan a blood work soon but with only 2 ui's and in sub-cutaneous , i plan to try 2 differents labs and why not .... Depend my results try the same like you.
Have a blessed Sunday,
Sincerely.
Lundgren -
Messing with GH and high IGF-1 levels is a gamble. If you have no cancer in your body you should be fine. But if you have cancer high IGF-1 levels will accelerate its growth. But my levels naturally are over 300, so I’m not that much higher than my baseline. Although I’d like to push higher, closer to 600. That’s where the fun really begins. But I’m restraining myself and staying at 4ius.
Yes Intramuscular injection for a number of reasons. 1), it’s absorbed into your bloodstream and starts working much faster and more predictably which is beneficial for things like fasted cardio in the morning, or pre/post workout. IM injections of aqueous solutions like GH are fully absorbed and in your bloodstream in 30 mins max. SubQ injections of GH takes 2.5-3hrs to start working and is absorbed much more gradually. IM hits much harder. And spot injections of GH into the muscle causes a release of local IGF-1E c (MGF) IGF-1E a, and IGF-1E b. Which is what we want. Systemic IGF-1 like this blood test shows is somewhat useless and is what’s responsible for growth of all the other things we don’t want to grow like organs.
Good morning and blessed new Monday & new week (◔‿◔)
1) when i read your message i think about around 20-30 years ago when Gen-Sci China have made the first AQ rHGH.
A good friend of mine told me that the product was even purer than Jintropin powder.
Instead of taking one dose every day, he took three doses per week at the end of his workout.
(If his weak point was his lower limb muscles, he focused on that area, took 10 IUs, and waited 20-30 minutes to replenish his protein and carbohydrate intake.)
For your goal do you think bout rHGH cycle / pause off and going with PEG-MGF (with the same protocole)
Anyway thanks for all explain it's always a pleasure, but please be careful about the poor "bad" new cells.
And i wish to you a awesome training if your going today at the gym / workout (•ө•)♡
Take Care and All The Best (◔‿◔)
Sincerely.
Lundgren -
so, if you do less than 4 iu it would be pointless? I was looking at the site you posted and that's pricey lol. I may have to try it in the future
For me personally, or for everyone? For me, yes it most likely be pointless to go under 4iu because my GH levels are high naturally. ‘My baseline IGF-1 was 304, which is right around where 3ius would get me. I’m definitely not spending a dime all to run 3iu just to replace what I’m already making naturally. Only makes sense to spend money on this to raise your levels beyond what you’re producing naturally. So that’s why it’s really important to spend the $50 and get your natural levels tested first.
But most people don’t have such high natural production. Many are in the 90-200 range in which case doing 2-3iu a day could be beneficial by raising your levels into the 200s or 300s.
Your dose will also depend on your goals.
Yup. I’m always around 400 ng/do on 4 iu
What’s your base before running it?
This was kind of interesting. I first pulled my baseline in my 20s. It was 124. I was off GH for a few years before I started this run of omnis and it had been 10 years since I had that baseline done so I figured it’s no longer very accurate and I should pull a new one. And I was 304. Makes no sense to be almost 3x higher when I’m 10 years older, but that’s what it is.
It sort of demonstrates that your baseline doesn’t really matter much.10 years ago 4ius got me into the 400s with a 124 baseline, and now 4ius still gets me into the 400s with a 300 baseline. Taking GH will fully shut down your natural production so whatever your IGF-1 levels are is solely from the exogenous GH, its not adding to your natural production.
Fair enough ! Thanks for sharing it !
Great numbers