posted Sat, 12/14/2013 - 07:08
5647
+ 5 Hygetropin Brown Top IGF-1 Results
ad
I ran these Batch # 20130701, for 15 days, 10 days at 5iu\d and the last 5 days at 10iu\d. Put on 12 lbs in the last week!
Sorry guys, I think I'm messing up the IGF-1 blood levels by eating the morning before the tests?
It doesn't matter for HGH Serum, but I'm thinking it does for IGF-1! Still learning about IGF-1 testing.
I will fast for next tests!
Thanks Mark!
Ordered from:
- Bookmark
- 5
- 0
Batch #?
20130701, its on the link to the pic, and was mentioned earlier in the thread. I just added it up top also.
Thanks for posting GF. If I'm not mistaken, all of the brown top Hyges have elevated IGF-1 levels extremely well. Not sure about the fasting issue. If your baseline is low, It would be nice to see the results after a full month with ED injections. 5/10IUs seem like a high dose for the brown tops. Any CT pains are swelling of the feet?
That's the thing, I have been switching brands to get different test data out. Box of this box of that. I always knew that would cause variances in the data due to elevated numbers then switching to different brands. Unfortunately I'm not stacked to be able to run these tests and clear my system then run the next.... I'm trying to win another EBC!!! Yes, both wrists are giving me grief and the left elbow! Like I told another member, joint pain can happen anywhere not just carpal bones in the wrists!
Yip. I had upped my Serosim dose to 5IUs between XRays after I broke my hand to see if it would speed up the healing process. I ramped up too fast and got CT pain and also aching in my knees. Had some aching in my elbows also when doing curls. Oh, one more question.....were you running a generic (blue top) before the Brown Top Hyges?
I was running Generic Blues and Hyge Greens.
Gotcha....so your IGF-1 was elevated apprx the same? I am NO doctor nor do I play one on TV. Just wondering if you have a true GH deficiency. Most members getting 300 and above are younger members. I know you do quite a bit of testing. Have you ever got your IGF-1 elevated 300 or above?
Nope, thats my point. I don't really know if its the protocol at this point (not fasting) or my liver's ability to produce IGF-1? I will find out though!
I don't think it would be a GH deficiency, since I am exogenously raising my HGH Serum levels.
That's interesting. I'll be looking out for your future test results. Getting old sucks bro. Trust me I know. But I'm not going out without a fight! Lol! Thanks again for all your post.
Guys I like the way these results are starting debate! I believe the mid 200 values I've gotten on IGF-1 tests each time I've run them on 3 different types of HGH, may be caused by not fasting! I will test IGF-1 next time fasted! Stay tuned! Continue to debate and add comments, information, study info..... I appreciate it!
GF….this is the first I have heard of about fasting prior to testing IGF-1 levels. From the few articles I can find online, fasting actually lowers your IGF-1 levels. Can you bring me up to speed on the physiology of fasting and how it affects IGF-1 levels. Thx
When IGF-1 endogenous tests are run you are told to fast! Someone earlier commented if glucose #s were lower they would assume IGF-1 would be higher. Liver creates the majority of IGF-1, and is affected by Insulin and Glucose absorption\conversion. To what degree??? Thats why I will re - run tests with similar or same gear fasted to see differences. Testing and knowledge is power! The more we understand about the various affects the better we can create or adjust our cycles.
You may recall, before my last IGF1 test I did not fast. It was a lower number than my first one but my dosage was also less. It was still higher than your most recent test. I wish we all had the money and time to prove these theory's definitively..
+1 on testing but I think we can both agree this batch needs further scrutiny. Frankly I am shocked that the IGF1 numbers are that low. We have seen plenty of #'s on hyges run at much lower doses that were superior to these.
I would hope anyone else with this batch of hyges goes in and gets tested so we can say for certain whether this is an anomaly or something more serious.
I just posted IGF-1 test results for me and my husband. Hyges green top batch 2013601. Here is the link http://www.eroids.com/pics/hygetropin-green-top-igf-1-results
AnonYou should read more of the comments below because there is a lot of questions that may already been answered. You should also take into consideration all of gfits igf levels and the consistency of there levels. These numbers reflect a norm of his testing.even tests he did over a year ago before members here really got big about igf testing. You can compare these results all you want to what other people's test and it means Nothing. This is infact consistent with gfits levels. He is 52 and his baseline is much lower then others which I'm sure he knows. I mean you were on 3ius of nords and scored 391 and I just did bloods on 3ius of hyges and scored 468. Now we both know that there is nothing wrong with your nords but we can't compare are results against one another because there are to many different variables. My base line igf is in the 230s which may bea huge factor to my better results. Also people will alway respond differently to compounds. I would love to see more blood work on everyone on hgh.not enough people give back like we do. I am on Nords for over a month now and will be pulling igf at 3ius a day.
I hear you and don't take my words as disrespecting anyone. I am genuinely curious why it showed so low. I also realize baseline does play a role but how much of one is still undecided last I checked. I have been interested in hyges myself (one can only afford pharma so long) , especially after the very encouraging numbers we have seen lately. But this test is a concern.
AnonSorry for the late reply watching football and hanging out with the family.i would never take you words as disrespect hence the reason I took the time out to give you a detailed response. I thought the same thing every time I saw gfits igf. Even with age as a factor I thought them to be on the rather low side and so did others. But the more he test the more I see the consistency of his test and the consistency of his igf levels. Hate to say it gfit but your old and your igf don't elevate like some of ours do. But by your testing we will be able to see what works best. We can see if split dosage will raise it. And if it does by how much. I personally would split up a 5iu dose and definitely a 10iu. And this will give us an answer to a question that we see so often asked in the forums. Btw ice I see you got rid of the pirate. I liked the pirate part lol
Hey bro, just to let you know I started that protocol yesterday. 5iu Hyge.cn Yellow AM and another 5iu before bed. I'll run this box for 10 days and test the 11th fasted! Let the learning begin! LOL ;-P
AnonLook forward to it
It's gonna be a busy couple months, Hyge Greens, Browns (retest Fasted), Old Blues (fasted and 24hrs post injection) New Blues and New Kigtropin! Be nice to see the Kigs rebound. Maybe Getropin also? Vips on the horizon! I need to get a side job to pay for all these tests! LOL ;-P
anything coming from firsthgh.com have been showing very low IGF results lately. I wouldn't point the finger at the hyges themselves. Because many other hyge suppliers have been showing much better results.
Maybe the hyges from firsthgh.com aren't kept in proper storage conditions or something but none of his stuff has been putting out good results.
AnonThis is also something I didn't take into consideration.
My understanding is Hyges should be able to remain unchanged at normal room temps for a month or so!
Bottom line hyges from firsthgh.com are scoring lower than hyges from any other supplier.
we may never know the reason. the best thing to do is simply use another supplier!
But are the other suppliers scoring higher with the same Batch #, or is it a Hygetropin issue and not a supplier issue?
That is a great question, I kind of touched on that in the other thread. We don't know at this point. We need others to step up with honest bloods..
glucose levels are high meaning you weren't fasting. I'd expect higher numbers if your glucose was lower
what was the batch number on your hyges?
20130701
I expected the Glucose to be high, I had 50gm Whey shake, Meuceli with Hemp hearts and a handful of Craisins! I haven't done much IGF-1 testing so thought its no problem to eat with Exogenous HGH, but the IGF-1 is Endogenous production, so I will fast on the next IGF-1 test.
yeah those 20130701 are the funky batch hyges with the weird labels.
My greens and browns have the original labels and are 20130801
though your results are not bad given your age, short use (2 weeks) and other factors! thanks for testing
yea, I didn't like that the labels were inkjet printed and the authentication numbers and ink on label rubbed off with the silver. Couldn't verify them because I couldn't make out like 3 characters. Not sure which I'll test next, .cn Yellows, new label .com.cn Greens, Generic Blues..... but for sure I will fast! LOL ;-P
Thanks for testing Gorilla!
How long after your last hyge pin did you test the igf-1, and what was your pinning frequency (1/day or 2/day or?)?
Oh and what were you running for gh prior to the15 days of hyges?
Thanks!
No problem Bro, We all need the info! Exactly 24 hrs after last Hyge pin. Once a day AM.
Hyge Greens.
AnonWill you consider split dosage for your next test?
You know me bro, I'll consider anything that I can publish results to learn from!
Wow that's crazy that your igf is that low on that dose. I'll definitely be interested to see what you score after doing it fasted to see what difference it makes. I do all my bloods fasted in the morning. +1
AnonIt's really not as low as one might think. His base line is what's low. He has ran several igf test and people always think there low. You could run these same test and be well above 600 for 2 resaons. 1 your baseline is 196 i believe which is very good for your age. 2 your body may simply respond better. Also Keep in mind he is also above 50. One last thing he was only running 10 iu's the last 5 days. That is not enough time to see the elevation that It can cause. So look at this test at 5 iu's a day.also splitting the dose too twice a day me be a factor.
I realize it wasn't very many days for the brown tops but I believe gfit was on another type go hgh before this for quite some time so shouldn't the igf already had plenty of time to be built up? Like for instance my test was at 3 weeks of the brown tops but I had never taken hgh before so it was a fresh run up where as g has been on hgh for a while
AnonYes but even if he was on it at 10 iu's a day for a year then dropped to 5 iu's it would not take long for the igf to drop. Plus I have seen his igf on other products and it wasn't crazy high.im starting to see his norm and range from how he reacts to hgh. This is the benefit of him preforming multiple test on the same subject.You can get an accurate read on what is taking place in one user.i can't compare my results to his because there are to many different variables. Age, baseline igf ect. Most people will look at his igf and say it's under dosed. But it is not. This is petty consistent with what I have seen from gfit testing. Everyone will have different results. You and I scored much higher off less. Now if we were to run 5 or even 10 iu's are results might be ridiculously higher then his.
The next test will be fasted. Since I don't fast on HGH tests I didn't fast on the IGF-1 which is just poor planning knowing the IGF-1 increase even though prompted by exogenous HGH injection is stun an Endogenous production. I just thought it would remain elevated but there are a lot of factors related to IGF-1 production that I am not familiar with. Another test and another lesson! LOL ;-P
Single injection HGH tests I have seen showed very elevated peak IGF-1 numbers at 24hrs, so..........
I'l keep testing and keep learning!
AnonYes sir. I think we could learn even more from split the dosage. So many people ask that question and this can give them more of a definitive answer
I'll give it a shot and run the tests, then I'll have to run them again on the same lot, with a single dose to compare! Sound good?
AnonYes. I will also start doing some stuff to mix it up in my testing as well but I still have to test nords,rips,saizen, vips, seros, tev tropin. Don't want to switch up anything. Trying to keep all the variables the same. I will be doing the bloods on the nords this week.
Nice Bro, can't wait to see them!
I think not fasting is the issue, I'll continue to research it which is great because I always come across something else while researching what I'm looking for! Next test will be fasted for sure! This one I scheduled last minute and didn't get an appointment until 10:30, had to travel that day and was not going without food! I'm bulking! LOL ;-P
You should take the address off and that's the highest I've seen Serum at WOW!! I would have thought your IGF levels would have been higher but it's still the REAL DEAL HGH! Good Job Sir + 3 for doing all them IU'S
The address is gone. That Serum is Glucose, not HGH.
Yea, I thought they would be higher also, I'm thinking eating before the test affects IGF-1 levels but not HGH levels. I'll do more research and test that theory before the next IGF-1 tests.
That could also be the issue with then generic blues I tested, not just the 54hrs between last pin and test.
You DA MAN!! I always like your test on all the gear you test. Thank you for everything Sir
Your welcome! Trying to learn all the time and help members make better decisions on their purchases.
JHWas the injection frequency on the blue tops same for u?