posted Mon, 09/14/2015 - 13:57
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This is for a few Sources/Members that were interested in seeing sequencing and characterization of GODTropin
Batch No. 010415
Mfg Date 01/04/15
Exp Date 01/04/17
Purchased June, 5
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I can see how this is giving to some in the community but honestly you can't expect a gym rat to have a clue on what he's looking at here, it'd be more helpful if there was a link explaining the basics and what to look for in these test. I can only know the validity by simply running a source's GH and even then I have to block that placebo effect that tries to interfere with knowing what's real and what isn't, which comes from fans blowing up the SI discussion page with their praise of the product.
Gym Rat Version 1.0
https://www.eroids.com/pics/godtropin-igf1gh-serum
I don't think there is "one link" that can explain how to interpret the test results fully. I can honestly say I don't understand them 100%. But, the lab did confirm both samples to be GTG.
If you are really interested about the testing, this is a good read:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/btpr.72/full
I have been of the belief for awhile now that the Chinese have finally mastered GH. It took awhile but I think they have it down now. As long as we keep an eye out this should be good for all of us.
It's not that they are not capable. It's market driven. The demand for cheap black market GH. Some BioPharms are not equipped to manufacture a pure product.
Some BioPharms are (Zhongshan BioPharm) But the demand requires cheap GH, so the end product isn't manufactured to "pharma" standards. Black Market doesn't have standards besides raising IGF1/GH Serum.
You can Google:
Biosimilars in Asia (recombinants)
Biopharmaceuticals in Asia
We could send our resume's to Zhongshan Hygene for a job at the lab:
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/21800/image_147.jpg
Or we could just contract this BioPharm for our own RazorTropin:
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/21800/image_144.jpg
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/21800/image_146.jpg
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/21800/image_148.jpg
You can get whatever "grade" (high/med/ low) or concentration. Higher cost for "premium". So the black market actually drives what's available in my opinion.
I think competition will be good for the 2 products that were tested here. They both tested so well they should both be called BioSimilars, not "Generics".
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bigwillythey wer at one point the GH hub of the world. the Chinese government has gotten very strong as has their military and now they cant be leaned on by out side forces. from 08 until 13/14 china was in a death sqeeze by the US government and big pharma companies, restricting gh production over there. make no mistake, china had the gh game mastered looong ago, jintropin and keife counted for 77% of gh sold on this planet, so much so phfizer elly lilly and a few others had to take steps to shut them down. now china is strong their and that's why your seeing what you seeing.
Niceeeee +1 thank you.
Hitman187so basically to sum it up in the cliff notes version for dummies both brands just tested are both of a high quality!? +1 hail, you are an invaluable asset to us all.
Since both were "Generics" that were tested, I really thought the lab result would be slightly "off". According to the Lab, Lab Test, and the Blood Work done, both products tested are very legit. That's really a good thing.
Lab emailed:
Nice am running this now+ 1
Thanks sir, this results show high quality HGH
Wow. I don't understand any of this but as killjoy mentioned. 3-4 mg in vials?
I'm limited on understanding the results...but, It's basically showing "purity". If you look at the molecular mass/protein sequence.....matt's product seems to be a quality product. I'll see about getting concentration, but I would guess it's dosed correctly.
Been waiting for these FOREVA!! NICE BRO! NICE!! +1000000000000
Any quantitative testing? I just recently read through (every page) of the cluster fuck of a thread over at meso w/ mands and Jim and the huge debate on whether these generics are "underdosed" even tho the blood work posted seem to contradict the quantitative results even on the genos. Sadly that thread seemed to die off without any closure... And I noticed you were partly active in the midst of the lunacy.
Since you've also performed blood work on these ... is it safe to assume they are dosed in the ballpark of 3-4mg per vial?
Biggest Frikkn Let Down.....I dunno what happened over at MESO. I had high hopes.....but the thread just faded away. So yes, GH Serum/IGF1 on this batch.
damnwhodatMeso is nothing but a bunch of asshole. All they do is accuse every source of being crooked, and every member of being a liar shill...u post real results and they still don't believe shit is legit
care to weigh in on which side of the fence you are on... in regards to Jim's results on dosage? If I'm not mistaken, every test came in at 50% under.
See, that's a good question.....I found some info from SIMEC about concentration. Even their info was off. I posted that info on MAND's Lab Report on Karl's SOMA's here.
Yeah I remember your SIMEC report on the Angs showing overdosed concentration. Its crazy how to date we have yet to see a definitive report looking at quality, quantity and biological assay that all line up in a row. Even on the damn pharma products... it's one big mystery.
But based on the results of projects in the past year from amazing people like you and mands... its safe to assume there is SOME legit generic growth which does trigger IGF synthesis at the "bro science" rate of 80 to 100ng/ml per IU. Regardless of what the concentration is reported at... And its not some secretagogue or fantasy peptide that's doing the work.
I'll be posting more of these. I posted the 2 links below of a Hyge sample. That one is off (high impurities, other proteins) but it still raised GH Serum/IGF1. I think that sample result would be a good example of possible "deminishing" IGF1. (Protein Immunogenicity)
I have ALWAYS questioned the "Generics". I think "inconsistent" is the best description. But, right now there seems to be a good run on GH.
ZandaWow this is great to see...thanks HR! Now sorry for the rookie question but I'm sure others will be curious too
Ques: the molecular weight of somatropin is 22125 daltons, I get that. Then below it says per expasy, the theoretical weight of somatropin in 22115 daltons (should that read 22125 not 22115? Trying to understand that). Further below it says the measured mass of the isotopic envelopes shown is 22117.2441 (difference of about 2 daltons). what do these findings tell us about the purity of the compound tested?
These seem to be off:
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/58574/intact-mass-rep...
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/58574/intact-mass-rep...
ZandaGot it. That helps put into perspective. Definitely curious to see other samples of generics and pharma to compare like you said.
Thx again
There's some Source(s) here that know a bit more about the testing. I think this is one of the more detailed GH analysis. Karl's also posted similar testing. I've got more samples being tested. It'll be cool to compare Pharma to "Generics" along with GH Serum/IGF1. I hope to get more info from the lab as more sample results are done.
bigwillySo is it 21.21 jigawatts and are you sure the canibler pin was in the on position ?
Alls I know is 6ius made me numb all ova