posted Fri, 04/04/2025 - 14:05
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+ 9 Giving winny another shot.
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Got some ol'stanny boy to try out at the tail end of my current cycle. Last couple times I ran it for very short durations and at only around 20mgs a day. Gonna give 50mg a shot and for an actual 4 week length. I'm interested to compare a good doses strength gains to the other orals I've ran.
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Winny gave me the worst heartburn I have ever had in my life, I would highly recommend using a proton pump inhibitor. I have always had issues with acid reflux but the winny made it 100x worse and tums didn't even kinda help with it.
I’m on prescribed ppi now. Did this medication for acid reflux make you nauseas ?
I'm prescribed protonix now, I ended up with a GI bleed from a ruptured ulcer. I havent had any side effects to from it other than not having acid reflux every day for the first time in about 10 years.
I loved winny but winny didnt love me
Always injured and screw up my cycle
I heard winstrol gives u a pump like dbol?
But affects joints increases cholesterol by 30% but shreds u more than anavar due too the diuretic effect
Pretty much text book definition
Yeah I read alot
You are playing with Fire there mate if you are gonna test it out for strength gains - its great for power and strength and thats why all the 100mg sprinters use to use it, but the risk is real with your tendons bud. You will feel it in training anyway if its causing too much dryness.
I should've been a little clearer about that. I don't ever max out for singles or doubles and rarely will for a triple. I'm more concerned with the strength gain in the 8-12 rep ranges which I know is still dangerous if you push too hard too fast. And since I can't afford to get hurt, being I'm a husband and father of 4 and sole bread winner, I definitely will be treading lightly lol.
Aahh okay mate - in that rep range I am sure you will be okay then
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Winny screwed me up - hurt me knee BOWLING -didnt even need weights.
Limped for 3-4 weeks didnt realize it was part winnies fault
Well you’ve got enough for you and 6 friends to run it for 4 weeks! Hopefully you do like it so you can run it that many times instead of having to give it away haha
Last time I used it was when I was a rookie PED user but I did get great dryness & vascularity from it. 50mg a day is def a great dose. I’ll be trying it again this spring/summer.
The other times I ran it I didn't dislike it... I also didn't really like it. I honestly didn't really notice anything. The first time I took it I wasn't sure how much to take l, so I didn't buy enough. Then the second I accidentally bought the lower MG tabs.. so this time I should definitely be able to give an honest go lol.
anvilMost people suggest strongly against training hard and heavy on winny. When you see people getting hurt lifting in prep are using it to dry out. It;s awesome finisher if you are doing like a photo or something to get in shape for but as with all orals once your done taking it you don't keep the look, you rent it from the drugs. If you wanna see how strength you can gain from an oral use anadrol.
Yeah I got some npp on hand for that. And truth be told, I'm not really running it for the traditional reasons you run winny. I'm gonna look later to see if I can find it but there was a video of a guy showing a graph from a study where it showed stanozolol to have given more muscle gains than a few other compounds. I chose the tail end to get some of those traditional drying out effects but my plan is to run a good amount of nandrolone with it and see what actual gains can be made.
anvilNandrolone will increase synovial fluid in the joints, but I don't think it will help with the tendons. I see what you are saying, I will be interested to hear back your thoughts afterwards just wanted to make sure you won't get injured.
I appreciate ya, good point about joint vs tendons. I honestly assumed the fluid retention from wet compounds also helped out with tendons.
Fluid retention, collagen synthesis increase and IGF-1 increase from NPP and Dianabol help tremendously with sore & dry tendons in my experience mate - its why I run them both. Its why you will often see XXX tabs which include 1/3 Adrol, DBol and Winny as the DBol and ADrol help offset the dryness of the winstrol. They are designed primarily for strength and size increase.
anvilYou and your Dbol LOL.
Best feeling of any Oral, best appetite increase, best for tendon recovery and strength, best for size increase, second only to Superdrol for strength increase (M1T better but too hard to run), Cheap as chips, Easy to get hold of, Moderately toxic, Works within a few hours of taking.
Anyone who wants to debate this - You are WRONG!!!! LMAO
anvilI don't debate it works great for you at all. It's not my drug, I am too estro sensitive and I honestly feel all orals except anavar are just so temporary, I don't like renting my gains LOL.
I have seen combos but have been a little leary about mixing orals. My thought being that if your taking enough of either two or three,then your hurting your liver, if you take a lower amount of each, then none would be at a real effective dose... guess I gotta rethink that.
Triple X Tabs generally come in 100mg tablets, working out at 33mg per compound so its more biased towards the wetter compounds.
I ran Superdrol, it's night and day difference from Dbol and Winny and yet more powerful than Anadrol. I gained 12 lbs solid muscle on 30mgs 5 weeks decades ago when the Designer Steroid first came out. Tons of water and liver protection. Lethargy was a side effect, no appetite but I forced fed. All good, winny has a purpose on its own.
I can't handle sdrol for more than a week at 20mg, I feel like a walking shitbag.
For real, I use to be the master for tolerating feeling like utter shit in return for a few extra Kg's on the bar - BUT Superdrol is an entirely different animal. Despite several best efforts the maximum I could tolerate at any one time on SDrol was 3 days then I had to wave the white flag. The way you feel so depressed, removed from reality and tired is something else. Seems to remove the feeling of recognising hunger in brain the too. Because you feel so ill on it, it generates a bad feeling of anxiety also. 50mg DBol tablets aren't far behind superdrol in effectiveness for generating quick strength.
anvilNever used it myself. I never got into the pills, anavar mostly, a few pulses of anadrol, and some light runs of winny.
^^^^^^preach
Destroyed my joints. I’d run npp with it
This is a good strategy. I liked it a lot...Taking at least 150-200mg of NPP per week already helps significantly. Especially if you plan to run Winny for more than eight weeks. It just doesn't improve your lipid profile haha
Who the hell runs Winstrol for that long? 4 weeks kills me
I've run it for 8 weeks, I've run it for 12! I don't get the cramps or dry joint issues unless I go over 50mg a day. Seems like that's where most guys I know run into issues. 50mgs is a perfect dose and npp has great synergy with it too
Lots and lots of people.
Amateurs, Pros, etc.
Fellow Kevin Levrone Ran 350 a week haha (Yeah, I don't believe him. These old school guys lie a lot (they've run much more than that in a week.) btw
Everyone is different. Many people don't feel it that much. Many people prefer Winny for finishing instead of Var for example. And so on...
Kevin has the best drs with him. Id go 4 max. Lol. Npp and winny make life good
Good stuff. Never used that labs winny. But it makes you strong sex drive crazy feel good. I ran it alongside adrol so didn't notice any dried out joints. But man was i strong. Way better than injectable suspension that hurts like a mother fucker.
Yep. Adrol or Npp works beautifully as an anabolic joint relief solution. Especially if running winny over 8 weeks, I think it's an excellent add on IMO.
I liked 30. 30 made my hyper af. Pharma but still was fun.
I mean you use npp more than Deca ?
I like npp yes. Used often. 600 test 350npp 300mast is a nice full pump cycle. Ive used npp up high around 750 with low test cutting. Its versatile