posted Sun, 03/23/2025 - 11:07
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Just a quick update on off season, ready to start a 12 week cycle of test, npp and anavar, never done it before, not looking to get super big just a few more pounds of muscle, I like it that way and feel better overall
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This is off season for you? Bro you’re lean AF. Your cycle is going to have you looking like super man when you’re done.
Thank you bro, indeed I am off season right now. I wanna start my new cycle in about a week, trying to get it ready.
Man looking great!!!! How much weight you planning to put on?
Thank you bro, I wanna get at leas 8-10 clean muscle mass bro, I just trying to figure out my cycle but I think I will go with test c, npp, anavar and winstrol, i will follow the advice that some of the members posted down below and won’t go any longer than 8 weeks on the orals, maybe 5 weeks anavar and 3 weeks winni for the last three weeks of my 12 week cycle. But for me honestly if you have your diet on point you don’t need big amounts of gear.
Lean af!
Antonio banderas never hit this polished physique ! You’re treating you well, hard work pays off for sure. Did you come off bulking phase right ? Did I get it wrong ? I’m impressed how you did keep your waist line lean. I’m glad actually, your cutting will be very smooth for sure.
Keep that up !
Thanks bro, I did a test mix and equi cycle, I added a little Hgh as well, while getting some quality muscle mass I was also burning fat,.. honestly it was my diet, it was always on point.
Absolutely. Just curious, how much Hgh daily? Yep…Diet and training are the foundation of any protocol. Usually that sets where you going to get regardless the compound. You can cut with Adrol or Npp for example, can achieve great results bulking with high primobolan also, I mean of course some drugs are better for certain occasions, but yep, diet can define results for sure.
I don’t like adrol, get really bad headaches. I was thinking about test c, npp and anavar or winstrol, what do you think? I was doing doing only 4iu daily, that was honestly enough for me.
Honestly. There’s so many ways you can go with this cycle. I would honestly choose one oral or the other. I will also say this, being that you’re running NPP, it would counter the effects of brittle joints and Winstrol would have a drying effect on the npp. You’ll look “fuller” on var, more vascular and leaner on Winstrol. It’s really up to you to decide how you want to proceed with this.
4iu is a very good dosage, both for the lipolytic effect and to synergistically help in the growth of muscle mass, I personally only see results with 4iu and above when it comes to building mass. IMHO You can do an excellent job with these compounds you mentioned. Some people are resistant to nadrolone in the cutting phase, but in my opinion that doesn't make sense. You seem to be a guy who controls food intake well, and that is fundamental using NPP in this phase. (Cutting tends to be "deleterious" for our physique, and NPP would help in the recovery because it is very anabolic and of course, in the issue of joint lubrication, which would fit like a glove if you intend to include WINSTROL in the protocol). So if you were to do an 8-week cutting for example: Testo + NPP + VAR for 8 weeks straight, (low caloric deficit) if you want to give an extra boost I would do another 4 weeks (10% surplus) exchanging VAR for Winny, I would not use both. Total of 12 weeks. But looking at your photo, it seems to me that your body fat percentage is already low, so 12 weeks seems like a long time for you. You are already very lean, so I would focus on 8 weeks. But of course, this is just my opinion. You should adjust as you feel most comfortable, I am sure that you will have made great progress till the summer.
This is the reason why I love this forum, thanks for the advice my friend, that’s what I was thinking exactly I just wasn’t 100% sure. 12 weeks, test,npp and var for 8 weeks then switch up the anavar for the winny. Are you currently on a cycle?
Yes. Some people can tolerate more time on 17α-alkylated without considerable alteration on lipid profile and liver enzymes. I personally can, don’t even feel any stomach aches, very common for some individuals. But each person is different.
I would say that you need to find your tolerance point, but this is only possible by testing. The opinion of people who have experience is valuable, but they cannot define what you will do. This is my point of view, because at the end of the day, the one who will reap the results, whether they are good or bad, will be you. I personally don't like to post or indicate cycles, dosages or anything, mainly because there are a lot of gatekeepers here. But what I explained was just an idea. There are a thousand ways to get where you want to go. You will find out what works best for you, and usually, it takes time, but that’s why we are here to share experiences.
@SimonM84 has a point too, so you need to test your tolerance. As a “rule”, 6-8 weeks would be considered “safe” but there are people who suffer within 4 weeks. This means that there is no set recipe (rule). Another possibility would be to do a quick start with Var, in the first few weeks, take some relief in the middle weeks, and in the last 4 weeks add WINSTROL, because the skin effect it gives, the dry and fullness is, in my opinion, incredible and really better than any other. Be aware that your lipid profile will suffer with Winny, more than with any other oral. This is what my experience has proven. I have already run 10-12 weeks of Var and had nothing. I have already run 1 month of Winny, it messed up my HDL and LDL. In any case, I recommend that you stay chatting with other people here and see what good you get out of it. I am coming off the cruise and will be going on a blast next week.
If I can give 1000 points to this post I would. You literally said everything including not giving cycle advice because I feel the same way. Majority of all this is relative and experimental. For example, I can’t run heavy doses of test but I used to tolerate Tren well to the point there were virtually no sides. No as I got alder, no point to even run Tren. Some guys on here have said you won’t experience results if you don’t run minimum 100mg of var, I used to run 30 mg with prop and everyone thought I was taking Tren. I know guys who could run a gram of Deca and have sun 10% bf%. I’m not that person, it’s all to one’s physiology.
I wouldn’t run 12 straight weeks of orals.
Sup bro, you wouldn’t? how would you do it then? Needs some opinions and I know for sure you have more knowledge than me
12 straight weeks will destroy your lipids and wreck your organ health.
Can you extend cycle to 15 weeks ? It’s alot of pinning with prop though.
Check this out, tell me how that one looks
Week 1-6 anavar
Week 10-12 winny
It makes a lot of sense what you just told me so thanks bro.
I hate Winstrol. I ran it a few times and my body was never the same. Granted it has its benefits and I’m not opposed to what you suggested but by week 5 on var, if I’m at 50 mgs, I’m lethargic. 30 mgs is more than enough for me and I can run it 8 weeks at that dose. Now, I’ll tell you what I did and would change, I did a 16 week cycle a few years back and I spread out the orals.
First 5 weeks of Anavar 50 mgs
Test 200 Cyp first 5 weeks then 400 mgs 5-16
Tren e 12 weeks200 mgs
Winstrol last 4 weeks
By the time I was finished, my joints were never the same. If I didn’t care about my hairline, I would’ve traded Tren and Winstrol for masteron. Or just ran a low dose of Deca for joint support. The only time I’d consider running Winstrol again is if I run Deca along side it. The risks are not worth the reward. I’m also not a frequent pin cushion so only long esters for me. Take my cycle for what you will, you have to walk your own path.
My dream is to be able to run test and primo all year round at try doses like anvil while doing var every other 5 weeks. My body is a mess and I feel Deca is on the horizon for me after I try dhb for the first time this summer.
How are you posting such sharp pics ( high resolution) ? Everytime I post a pic with galaxy s23 they lower the resolution to hell.
Switch to iPhone hehehe
congratulations, my friend.
Thank you!!!!
Looking great definitely on the right track , keep it up fella
anvilLooks like you are taking good care of yourself mate! Keep it up!
Isn't it funny how often the mental image you have in your head of someone on here based on what they say is totally different to what they look like in reality!!
Don't think I've ever seen a picture of you before mate - looking sharp and good bud!!
Well thank bro, I really appreciate it, and yeah it’s funny that you get to know people on this forum and you don’t even know them.
Everyone thinks I'm black...but only from the waist down
Lmao I thought you were black. I still read your comments in Tyrone’s voice
Now I am confused? In his pictures he looks white
LMAO
Shit - Now I've got that Michael Jackson song rolling around in my head.
This was before I saw the pic he posted before his vacation cruise. It don’t matter tho in my heart he will always be black lol
anvilI know you aren't black. Not that matters..
Lmao
I did too until I saw your picture! Lmao
Dam so you know both is a lie
Lmao!
Looking good bro. Small amount of primo in that cycle would clean it up nicely.
Thanks! Small amount like 200-300mg weekly, and add that to that cycle? Npp, test and anavar?
Looking ready to go
Thanks bro, I am hold on the primo and do a cycle of primo around August.
Yeah all good. In case you change your mind, test primo and npp is a good cycle too but I’m going to run primo on trt after my DHB cycle.
What are you on exactly right now? I’ve actually done npp, test and primo and yes I liked it a lot
Right now, I’m on Cernos caps which is test decanoate. tne cream for preworkout and Anavar ( been about 3 weeks) I’m bridging this into my upcoming cycle for a “boost”. I do cycles very unconventionally featuring low dose but it fucked me up last summer because my estro crashed.
This cycle consisted of
Primo 300mg a week 1-16
Test e - 300 a week 1-16
Result- crashed estro and felt like shit. Now I’ve ran this before and felt fine when I was younger which leads me to believe that the test may have been low dosed or primo was over dosed. Turns out, the primo was over dosed and although advertised 150mgs was 200mgs so my fuck up.
This year mid April I’m going to run DHB at 300 mgs and test C 250 mgs for 16 weeks. I thought about throwing in Tren Hex at 100 mg for 10 weeks but my stomach health isn’t the best right now. I’m going for a colonoscopy and endoscopy soon. I just need to be more responsible with staying away from spice so Tren is always the smart thing to do. If all is well, after the cycle I’m going to do an @anvil protocol of Cyp 125 and primo 100 a week. I’ve always recovered and although my cycles are long, my doses are low and I do take off 5-6 months.
Ma guy, I wish you the best on that and hope you get nothing but good news on your test, idk about you but I am a huge believer in the natural route for every health problem, and for your stomach issues there are tons of herbs and natural supps you can take. Let me know and I can share the little that I know.
Yeah, I’ve been reading more about intestinal health. I eat a lot of citrus too. I’ll keep everyone updated and please share anytime. Regarding primo, I rather not use more test so I picked up Dbol myself to try and have a little fun with it. It’s been year since I’ve used it and rather pulse that through the primo cycle.
I will make a list of the herbs and supps that I know that are good for your gut health bro, hope you’re feeling better.
anvilI go a little higher 250/150 but it should work for ya, always keep everything I gained!
I do think my test was underdosed but I used to be able to run 600 mg primo without crashing at 300 mg test. Makwa ran a gram of primo and not sure how he was able to do it.
anvilMakwa was the king of Primo, whom I studied under lol. I ran 900mg and 1.2g test and still used 1mg a week of adex to stay in range.