What's goin on bigrick. I got some Stmg Primo and some Stmg Test Undecanote. I've been running the primo for about a couple of months now, along Dragon Pharma Test Propionate 100 and Dragon Pharma Deca 300. The Stmg Primo feels and looks like it's working great! Looks like it's keeping the water weight down a bit, and giving me that ripped, lean look. Although, I only used one 10ml vial of Stmg Primo, and I'm now using Dragon Pharma Primo. I'm running the Primo at 300mg/week. The other Stmg Test Undecanote, I'm saving for now, just in case I have to go to jail, and that way I can keep myself jacked-up for the first 3 months! If it the vial looks good, has the red cap with the Stmg logo on it, and has the stmg plastic wrap around the neck, and is a tiny bit smaller type of 10ml vial, then it should be fine! You can email Stmg and give them your lot and exp numbers if it'll make you feel better. They told me that all their newer vials should have the stmg plastic around the neck, red top with their logo, grey rubber stopper, rainbow colored sticker with their logo, and that kind of smaller, more rounded edged at the top vial. I have to say though, my friend got some Stmg Primo 100 by my advice, and his was a lil bit different sized vial, less rounded edges, no stmg plastic around the neck, and no rainbow sticker with Stmg logo on it! He used it anyway and said it was good, but the company did send him a different replacement for being displeased he said. He even checked with Stmg company site, and gave them lot and exp numbers and described the vial, but they said it was probably an old vial and it should be g2g. Winstrol is actually number 3 on a scale of 1-5 in strength(Excluding Trenbolone for some reason), from what I've read in Muscular Development magazine, with only Testosterone and Oxymetholone in front of it!! That's what I read, no Bullshit! It said Tren was stronger than all 5! Winstrol should give you lean muscle with no water retention, very good strength gains, and get you pretty ripped, of course all depending on how you run it, and eat, train etc. You should get that dry ripped look, and you should keep most of your gains made during your Winstrol cycle! Yeah, that's all I got(LOL)! I just like to help people out. I'm a very honest person! Good luck with everything!