When I placed my order for these items they came in the designated time period, safe and discreet packaging with bubble wrap inside. Both products have worked really well for me, no pip, increased libido, increased appetite, more energy feel like I can run for miles, no achne on face or body, slight oily skin. Just what I was looking for would recommend using either product or company,just make sure you get your prochem hologram on the bottles(a lions head on silver back) and the lid is sealed. I was 7 1/2 stone before using these and I'm now 9 1/2 stone. These products are available on many sites aswell as their own so be careful and always compare the products your looking for with the ones from the original lab or a respectable seller who you've bought from before etc. Stay Safe brothers