posted Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:50
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Endurance athlete special, erythropeotin & testosterone.
Apologies for the blurry pic!
The test is g2g. I'll spin up some blood soon and report back (once I get the requisite rep) on the EPO.
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breakingfaceMy issue with EPO is that I already struggle to control my RBC with year round blast and cruising. I donate blood in order to keep it in check, but this last tren run my RBC was so high that my blood pressure/heart rate disqualified me twice from donating blood. The 3rd time I failed as well but the guy saw that I was desperate and lied about my heart rate so I could donate. I honestly thought I was going to have to go home and bleed myself into a bottle ( which im prepared to do).
Wow.
What's your baseline?
I just ran my hct today: 44
breakingfaceWelcome Lance!
haha, I should write some articles on endurance training. I know a lot of bros here are pro at lifting heavy iron and write good articles on that. But some whippets like me might be looking for a way to build cardio without bulk.
X2 I'm interested to hear your experiences and knowledge as it relates to it. I'm on my first cycle, classic test only by the book, learning how it effects my endurance training and recovery time, etc...
100-125mg/week?
No, the cycle I'm on now is on a bulking period for me. 200mg Test-e E3D's. I've been continuing to adjust endurance training and up my bodyweight over the last number of years to see where my tipping point is in terms of loss of endurance performance. Last season was a swim focus. I hit many PR's with my highest lifetime bodyweight. We'll see how the endurance season goes for me this spring through summer with more mass. I won't be on cycle for this years endurance training either due to timing of this cycle's pct etc... but, maybe time a cycle for next year.
Congrats on your results!
bt843i got a sweet recommendation for an endurance athlete cycle from an ironman guy on another forum: 125mgs of sustanon, 200mg EQ, and 2ius ed of hgh (per week). -
"In endurance athletes natural testostrone is always suppressed to some degree. The 1/2cc of Sus250 just ensures the T levels stay on the high side of normal. Anymore and you will either hold water or put on muscle that you don't need or both. The EQ increases RBC without the risks associated with EPO. The hgh helps a great deal with recovery from the enormous amounts of long slow training volume that must be done as well as helps to increase overall endurance. "
i plan to run that exact cycle with the addition of 10-20mgs per day of winstrol or turanabol (or both together).
I'd be interested to hear how that works for you.
I'm in the "less is more" camp. Pro cyclists from Armstrong to Tyler Hamilton ran 100mg of test/week in the early 2000s. Then hgh came into vogue. Many now run hcg as a standalone or in addition to test. But 100-125/week test is the bread and butter for endurance men.
I think this is an interesting discussion and would like to start a thread on it. As well as EPO. Should I post in the anabolic forum?
bt843i think a lot of people will say steroids will pack on too much muscle and slow you down....the fact is that AAS will help you recover much faster than natural. This allows you to train more and progress faster. What AAS also does is make you stronger.
Strength transfers to power and whether your a runner or cyclist that is definitely a plus. If you can balance your doses so that you reap the strength and recovery benefits of AAS without packing on the pounds of muscle, i think it can really help you in your training as an endurance athlete.
bt843Yes i am definitely interested in the EPO too. i think there is a lot more for endurance athletes to gain from AAS than what most think, providing doses are much lighter.
bt843i got a sweet recommendation for an endurance athlete cycle from an ironman guy on another forum: 125mgs of sustanon, 200mg EQ, and 2ius of hgh. -
"In endurance athletes natural testostrone is always suppressed to some degree. The 1/2cc of Sus250 just ensures the T levels stay on the high side of normal. Anymore and you will either hold water or put on muscle that you don't need or both. The EQ increases RBC without the risks associated with EPO. The hgh helps a great deal with recovery from the enormous amounts of long slow training volume that must be done as well as helps to increase overall endurance. "
i plan to run that exact cycle with the addition of 10-20mgs per day of winstrol or turanabol (or both together).
def man. i think there would be alot of interest there
This represents about 1/8 of the total order.