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  • venooom   •   Mon, Sep 9th, '19 06:32   •   18 replies, 310 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

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I have been on Dragon Pharma Test Cypionate at 125mg (0,5 ml) every 5 days for 8 weeks, as I am reverse dieting from the summer shredz. Along with Test, I am taking 30mg MK677 ed (hence higher number in AST/ALT - I have included TUDCA immediately after seeing this blood work, before only Sylimarine and NAC). It's a pretty good number for such a low dose and I feel great on it. I have always been happy with DP products (used Test E, Anavar and Dbol before), so no complaints here :). I don't really get the low number in estrogen, since I am not using any AIs.

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  • lundgren's picture
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  • lundgren
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Thanks a lot for sharing your results with us.

It's strange because my transaminases up a lot when i use mk677 too :-( what lab do you used ? Do you take another compound ? For exemple anti-pain ?

I use the same dosage 125mg but every 7-10 days when i use the test for TRT, it's a pleasure to see another user and lab work with this dose.

Another important point, mk677 have shut down the oestrogen level, maybe another side effect ? :-)

I think give a try with roidbazzard next month with test E or C and Deca + NPP and maybe some oral like Dbol or Oxy.

+1 for your helping ! (^_^)

  • venooom's picture
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Thanks a lot. No other compounds from those mentioned. With regards to MK and estro connection, this might be logical explanation.

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  • gapi2911
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You should not worry so much because only AST and ALT are slightly elevated. GamaGT is normal. even 7 days after intense exercise they are elevated slightly. Alarming would be much higher values and when even gamaGT would be also high not normal like in your case. You should repeat liver tests after 7 days of OFF training/exercise. Do not change anything else even dose of MK677. I had a similar case. This will give you a real picture. And values are really just slightly elevated...

As transaminase levels are commonly but incorrectly referred to as “liver function tests” and “liver enzymes,”3 it is sometimes forgotten that they may be elevated owing to extrahepatic causes.3,4 Although highly concentrated in the liver, AST is also present in the muscle, heart, kidney, red blood cells, brain, and small bowel, whereas ALT is present in the liver, muscle, and kidney.3 In fact, muscle has more AST and ALT when compared with that in the liver because of a larger tissue mass.3 Consequently, transaminase levels may be elevated owing to various types of muscular disorders or injury (e.g., heart attack, surgery, and vigorous exercise), hemolysis, and small bowel ischemia.3,4

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5158103/

and:

Muscular exercise can cause highly pathological liver function tests in healthy men

The liver function parameters, AST and ALT, were significantly increased for at least 7 days after the exercise. In addition, LD and, in particular, CK and myoglobin showed highly elevated levels. These findings highlight the importance of imposing restrictions on weightlifting prior to and during clinical studies. Intensive muscular exercise, e.g. weightlifting, should also be considered as a cause of asymptomatic elevations of liver function tests in daily clinical practice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2291230/

Do not worry

  • venooom's picture
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thank you for your reply and inside bro, PS; are u from my country? :)

  • gapi2911's picture
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In the EU. You can PM me.
The sad thing is that many gastroenterologists do not know that. I have to find that on my own and bring those studies to mine. It will probably be normal if you rest for a few days. 1 week for sure. That was my case and with many others that do regular bloodwork which is IMO one thing one should never save money on.
It is great that you share yours and others can learn from your experiences. But you know, everyone is different.

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Thanks for testing ++

Not sure what I’d do about the e2. There’s almost always a cause for that. But then again if you feel good, libido is good and are making progress, then maybe that’s just how your body operates? Maybe drop the mk677 for 3-4 weeks and see if it helps?

I’m thinking either a) your liver values are tied to low e2, not the MK, or b) the MK isn’t MK.

  • lundgren's picture
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Personnaly the mk677 have shut down my œstrogene level like hell and push the transaminases on the top. It's strange :-(

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no shit?!

thanks for the input man. that's very good to know. We really are all very different. Could/probably is the case here then.

  • lundgren's picture
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Yes the first 5-7 days m'y BP up a lot, excessive water retention, hungry side like GHRP-6 , more pump & vascularity and after this time i lose all the water retention and i have a better muscular definition, but i lose a lot of libido and the testicles shreched lol

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Damn. Hadn’t heard of that that’s good to know. Thanks for sharing boss. I only use it now if I’m going on vacation and leave the GH at home, I just use 12.5/day to hold me over. I will say it does make me hungry as fuck tho. I took some right before we went to a diner this summer at the beach.... took my hangover away and I DESTROYED 4 plates of food plus my fiancée and her sisters left overs lol

The waitress laughed and was like damn... a man’s gotta eat haha

  • lundgren's picture
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Well, with 12.5 i have the effect but it's low, at 25mg it's elevated, it's why i have stoped after around 12 days.
Some study have shown that taking mk 677 over the long term (2-6 months) could create irreversible neurological damage.

Other studies have shown that mk677 can improve cognitive activity (but in the short term it seems to me maximum 2 months)

So i think it's better if we have a good source for quality GH or IGF1 :-)

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we are like some laboratory mice...

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Agreed. Thank god we have some lol

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Wouldn't a stressed liver lead to higher estrogen due to its inability to clear estrogens as efficiently?

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it could in theory. fucked up part is we're all different and the body doesn't always react as we predict. i've had elevated liver values on both high and low e2 without orals in play.

I'm not claiming that's why. just saying it's a possibility. I'm not sure if low e2 was the cause of my elevated ALT & AST, but I couldn't find another factor, so I'm not ruling it out, you know?

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I'm with you bro. So true that we are all very different!

  • venooom's picture
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thanks, you have valid points. With regards to the feeling, all is very well, libido, strength, overall progress and well being, I am at my best so to speak. I will drop the MK one way or another and start with HGH in a week.

  • DfromPhilly's picture
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That’s what’s most important. Have you had bloods in the past? If you always run low it could be just how you are. I’d just keep an eye on it. Good luck man.