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cruising at 150mg every 5 days, bloods done the day after pin\
adex dosed at .25 mg every 5 days

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a little update on my cruise. It was suggested that I drop the dose down for numerous reasons. I am obviously someone that responds well to exogenous test.

I decided to give it a shot and dropped down to 140 a week test E, even resisting the urge to pin just a little of that TNE i have in the stash before workouts.

I gotta say, 140 still has me feeling great. Still having great workouts and still horny as fuck. If I keep this up all summer I should have a great fall cycle and see some solid gains. props to Irongame, one of those members that really deserves that expert tag for giving solid advice.

biceps71's picture

Thats awesome level for dose and freq, need to give this source a go, thanks for sharing.

Gixxer151's picture

Nice +1

shaun1's picture

Sweet. +1

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GrowMore's picture

Good to see the test working. Thanks for uploading.

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irongame427's picture

Jesus Christ, 1900 on 150mgs every 5 days. My body sucks at metabolizing testosterone, 200mgs ew of Watson cyp puts me around 900 at best. I would cut that dose in half man, I used to keep my levels higher between cycles and my results on cycle wouldn't be very good. Keeping them as low as possible to feel normal and hold your size has orovesd far more effective then keeping them higher between cycles. How's everything else look? Liver kidneys CBC prostate etc?

CBBurrr's picture

I have to give bloods every 8 weeks to keep hemo #s in line, but I also live at very hi altitude. Dr is not concerned with them as it's pretty common up here. Platelets are always gtg.

Creatine always comes out a little high for me, but the BUN is at low side of normal and the ratio is very good.

Check prostate PSA annually and is gtg.

Alt is 2 points high, but i had been drinking a bit that week prior

CBBurrr's picture

I'll try a few months of lower mg per week and see how I feel, and see it the blasts get better reuslts

irongame427's picture

I'm telling you it makes a huge difference. Because our bodies adapt and raise levels or certain hormones to try to return everything to normal, like on cycle a lot of people will gain the majority of the size the first 8 weeks. Our bodies get used to the high levels of hormones and results stop, as well as raising levels of myostatjn which is what limits muscle growth, so two things working against us. So when your cruising and your test levels are at 2000 and you go on cycle and they raise to say 5000 plus you add another drug it just doesn't have the same effects at all as If your test levels wee say 500 and they raise to 5000 (10 times what they were) vs 2000-5000, only 2.5 times what they were. Results just come a little faster, but you don't blow up like you once did back when you ether did pct, that will really give you the best results when you go back on, or jus keep them around 500 so in normal range. My last few bulks have just been ok. This current cycle I'm cutting and I've gained 6lbs on 250mgs of test ew plus tren while dropping some fat so probably more like 10lbs. , I can't remember the last time j was on a bulk with a ton of food, high test, nandrolone and drol or dbol and blew up 10lbs the first two week, last time was years ago, let alone on a cut with low carbs and cals and no aromatizing compounds. And this last cruise I was on 100mgs ew, test levels were in the high 400s. Held all my size from my winter bulk or atleast most of it. Didn't feel as good as when they're closer to 1000 but it's the first time in a while I've gotten back on and actually felt a huge difference. In he past I've gone from cruising to 750mgs of test 500mgs npp and some dbol and hardly that "on" feeling". Gonna try to come completely off after this cycle and pct. I'll suffer a few months with low test for the results I'll get when I go back to bulking. I got this advice from a pro, he try's to come off everything for atlesat 3 months evey year or as long as possible gh included (I was off gh this last cruise for the first time in years) and the new gains sparked after this off period are great. I know we like to feel good all the time but hell I'd rather feel just ok for a few months to get the best results on cycle than feel great while off and my results on cycle he medicore at best. Definitely worth a shot bro. Sorry for the novel hah.

helloBrooklyn's picture

Have you considered that the reason you blow up more after blasting from a starting level of 500 is that you simply haven't kept the same amount of mass--or built any new mass of significance--like someone with a level of 2000 has while cruising?

GrowMore's picture

Thanks for the write up mate. Makes complete sense.

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Irontherapy's picture

Thank you for all this good knowledge my man! Some really good info here.

JL's picture

This is spot on!! I'd + this if I could. Got to come off completely or get test levels real low before starting a cycle. I tried bridging cycles at higher test dose and felt I wasted a lot of gear as I just didn't respond like I had in the past after a long trt cruise or coming off completely. This also can apply to taking time off at the gym too! Adapt and overcome.

irongame427's picture

Yup I did the same thinkin ok if I cruise at 250-300mgs I can still make some improvements between cycles and feel great. Then I get back on and like you said basically just wasted gear. Maybe if I jacked the doses way up the results would have been better but that's not how I like to do things. Smarter idea was drop my cruise dose even if my doc had me on 200mgs, hell I save pharm grade test using half of what's prescribed. Then I get back on and the results are great, gonna try coming off all together after this cycle before my bulk. I know it'll be worth it.

XmadXscientist's picture

Those are good numbers. What do you try to keep levels at during cruise? This seems high but idk what's normal. +1 for bloods.

JL's picture

That's a really high test # for cruise. Why pin every 5 days and go through the ups and downs with your hormones? Did you run lipids to? Thanks for sharing.

CBBurrr's picture

It's a trade off with pin frequency steady levels vs scar tissue. I have used a little Test U when I see it available, pin once a week with it.

I dont have any issues with the ups and downs of the level and it does drop quick enough.

I dint do lipids with this blood work, but do them annually. They are a little out of range unless I take niacin, which brings numbers back to normal range.

This cruise is a little more than I do most of the time, sometimes I'm at 175 a week, occasionally even less.

Gettingbig's picture

Good test e thanks for posting and testing +1

SenseiMiagi's picture

Thx for posting. Not suprised Smile +1

pharmabruh's picture

Those are awesome number! +1

KING's picture

Is this test e ?

CBBurrr's picture

yep, the test E 300

KING's picture

Very nice! Thanks for sharing bro!

helloBrooklyn's picture

High number for 150 e5d damn +

Was the adex KOH or pharma?

CBBurrr's picture

adex is pharma from Romania,
I usually get a pretty big spike in test # 24 hours after a pin, I bet I'm down to 8 or 9 hundred ng by the time I pin again.

I've also done enough bloods to see I get an even bigger spike in levels when I pin quads vs pinning glutes.

Irontherapy's picture

If you care to share what is the theory in pinning in quads vs glutes and how does this give you a greater spike?

CBBurrr's picture

Just what ive seen from bloods, maybe better circulation in the quad?

Irontherapy's picture

Ok just curious to c if I was unaware of something. Yes circulation could play a part.

Livelife76's picture

Estro isn't bad could definitely lower your crusie dose with that test number +2 for bloods