-1 Bloodwork! Accutane + Cut cycle (advice please)
So here's the scoop:
I was prescribed Accutane in December and will be using it daily for the next six months. My cut cycle started on January 1st that will last 12 weeks. Below is the breakdown.
Diet: 2400 calories/day
Protein: 60% Fats: 20% Carbs: 20%
Accutane: 40 mg/day 24 weeks
Dbol: 50 mg/day 3 weeks
Test E: 200 mg/week 12 weeks
Tren E: 300 mg/week 10 weeks
Hcg: 500 iu/week (using weeks 4-12)
1000 iu/week (using weeks 13&14)
Post cycle:
Day one: 300 mg clomid 60 mg nolva
Day 2-7: 100 mg clomid 40 mg nolva
Day 8-42: 50 mg clomid 20 mg nolva
Brand name Letro and Caber on hand just in case. Nolva is not recommended for post cycle when taking tren so I will be taking caber during my first week of post cycle. This will allow 6 weeks between last tren pin and introduction of nolva. Look at my past blood results... My recovery has been great with this approach.
I will be getting blood tests every month due to being on Accutane so I will post blood updates monthly.
Now onto the bad stuff... I have had some very adverse effects happen to my health profile. Significant changes have occurred within the last 30 days. Previous bloods were taken 12/12/17 (look at my other pictures).
HDL: 71 to 27
LDL: 75 to 97
Triglycerides: 55 to 41
ALT (SGPT): 27 to 61
Alkaline Phosphatase: 40 to 19
I will be monitoring this very closely as health supercedes steroids and acne. Any advice from you pros would be great! Thank you eRoids family
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estrogen increases not just water weight, but FAT GAIN, Dbol has a very high conversion rate to estro so I would consider dropping it until you finish your cut and then adding it back into your bulk. Remember people go on cuts too look good, it is not because it is optimal for muscle building, so it kind of defeats the purpose when you take dbol because it will make you very bloated and watery. One more thing, depending on where you are getting the acne it could be hormonal, (buttocks, shoulder blades, and shoulder) the reason why people get more acne off cycle is because of the estrogen. If you cut back on your dbol, you can cut back on your accutane. It is your body so you can do whatever you want, I am less worried you will get jaundice or anything sudden, but this could definitely wreak havoc on your long term health. The body has an amazing ability to adapt, the liver is incredible because of how extremely regenetive it is, you c ould literally cut out 3/4 of your liver and it will grow back completely. The liver can also grow to unbelievably huge sizes aswell, just look at alcoholics, some of them can drink 3-5 liters of straight vodka a day. So anyone telling you, you need to keep a keen on your liver is very much underestimating the human body. Just stop if you lose appetite or get dark urine, drink lots of water. The great thing about orals is you can control them on a daily basis.
Rustyhooker'So anyone telling you, you need to keep a keen on your liver is very much underestimating the human body'
Because thats how we work here. We push safety over stupid maneuvering. If thats not your cup of tea then move along to another site
I will say that in my experience, Accutane was significantly harsher than any steroid or ancillary I’ve touched. The side effects were worse, the consequences on my blood markers were way worse. Isotretinoin is a beast of a medication. I wouldn’t recommend running any anabolics with it at all, ever.
Thanks for the recommendation. I didn't think Accutane would be this harsh.
Tren is going to make your cholesterol worse. If you can't be without a cycle then take your test enanthate only until your numbers are better. Your playing a game with your health
Get off tren
Getting off dbol today. Adding an AI and will get tested again in 3 weeks. If I see no improvement then I will end my cycle.
Make sure you continue to check your cholesterol. Your hdl is low and that's when bad things happen . Make sure you ask your md about cholesterol and u may need medication.
If your bored youtube Mike matarrazo last interview. His hdl was 0 for 5 years and his heart stopped and then was working at 20 percent. Stop dbol. Be safe.
RustyhookerUsing accutane and cycling harsh compounds. You should stop the cycle! 13 days in with concerns . Wait til youre jaundiced and sick in a hospital getting blood cleaned.
I get testing in 3 weeks. I'll make the decision to stop or not! Dropping dbol so I'll see of that improves it.
RustyhookerYour type is the reason noone gives a shit. Yolo right bruh.
My type? You mean someone who is getting blood tests during a cycle when I guarantee the majority of eRoids users don't even do that during cycle. Then you take Karma away from me for posting a very detailed lab update? Like c'mon man. I'm listening to you all and my Dr. He said next blood test will determine the route we take. No not "Yolo" because if that was the case, I would spend hard earned money on blood work. Don't be that person that's "My way or the highway." Taking karma away is selfish.
RustyhookerYes. Your type.
Accutane is well known as ultra harsh. Your medically limited, or your dr didnt explain that? What do you think when tren starts trashing your liver and kidneys? Youll turn yellow and be in the emergency room hearing my arnold voice.... i told you so. Tgeres no wiping toooshies here.
I truely don’t understand this type. Why waste your own time, let alone everyone else’s, when you have no intention on listening or considering any of it?
Just think they’re looking for a warm, nut-caress, co-sign. (No homo).
RustyhookerIts getting rediculous as the cycle logs. Must be genetic spillover. Lol.
Hey! Lets get on some toxic medicines. Oh ya, lets add tren. Whys my piss dark reddish brown? Must be because its working.....
Accutane at 27?
500 mg of total gear a week isn't excessive. Pee is clear. Terrible acne at the age of 27 so yes, I'm going to get it better while I'm young. Why would I wait to do Accutane later in life? My acne is bad now so treat it now.
I am listening to you all. You act like I just disregarded everyone.
One member said use an AI, so I did
One member said drop dbol, so I did.
One member said Accutane and orals are bad so don't combine them, so I'm not anymore.
One member said stop the cycle, so I will in 21 days on my next blood test if there is no improvement.
Dr said we will have to take care of my health if liver and cholesterol levels don't get better, so I agreed and will follow every step.
If you don't think I'm considering everyone's opinion, you're wrong. Don't be that guy who wants everyone around him to listen 100%. I have the intention, consideration and understanding of everyone's views on this topic. Just because I don't do everything you say to a T doesn't mean I'm wrong.
You’re welcome to do anything you’d like. But, you came here and asked questions and opinions on what you’re doing. Many folks gave it. You basically said you’d do what you’d like and go from there. That will irritate folks and rightfully so.
People actally give a shit about others health. You don’t find that many places. You also are dealing with people who know their stuff and are willing to share that for free. Again, not sure where you’ll find that.
Stacking liver-toxic compounds is unwise. But it’s your choice. Good luck.
I love when people ask for input and help. Then when you tell them get off dbol amd tren it's like, I'll do what I want! Then don't ask for advice jackass
RustyhookerMakes no sense. They should just post up heres my bloods, yolo. Stfu because im not listening to advice.
Lol!
On a positive side, it means more women will be single and looking as these guys die off or trt with ed.
You’re always looking on the bright side!0
I've posted 4 times now that I'm off dbol so your comment is incorrect. Getting off of the whole cycle if my values don't get better... Next blood work is in 20 days. Stop spreading fake news "jackass".
As you know, the liver plays a roll in regulating blood lipids, breaking down accutane, and breaking down orals. In general we advise not to run any steroids in conjunction with accutane. ESPECIALLY not orals as they pose the greatest harm to the liver. It looks like yours is getting hit and your lipids are showing it. I would have a more comprehensive test of liver health and at least drop any orals. If you really value your health I’d end the cycle and wait until you’re done with the accutane bro. Things can go from bad to much much worse very quickly with that drug.
Edit: I didn’t see an AI on your protocol but estrogen can be helpful in buffering the blood lipid negatives associated with steroids. What has your doctor said? They monitor patients on accutane fairly closely.
For an AI, .625 mg letro every 4 sound good? That's all I have for the time being as I am not carrying arimidex or exemestane. I had a feeling about ending it early so I'm gonna wait till next test to determine if I will or not. I'll drop the dbol today and add the letro.
He said he is not going to be alarmed till next test. Stated that if it gets worse he will order further testing to find the root of the issue.
Ok good so he’s aware and will be checking.
Actually elevated estrogen helps with blood lipids to a point. I was going to say if you were running an aggressive dose of AI it could be contributing to the problems but if not don’t worry. Go off of blood work for dialing in your AI, you know your body.