posted Wed, 08/09/2023 - 03:32
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Bloodwork 5 weeks into cycle of-
300mg Test C / week
200mg NPP / week
50mg Anavar / daily
Pinning test/npp daily, subq. Anavar taken once daily preworkout. Gained roughly 3lbs in 4 weeks. Since upping my calories from 3500 to 4500 last week, I'm up another 3lbs. Sitting at roughly 12-13% body fat and 217lbs.
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Hello @SwaveyD
Thanks for the blood work !
In the past i tried the sub-cutaneous TRT, i feel like I have a higher estradiol elevation at equal dosage vs I.M.
I read a study with 80 patients on TRT with Cypionate ester, all patients reacted very well on the effect at 70mg / week in S.C but after some weeks, 60 patients have more PSA, so stopped the S.C method.
So be careful on this value "PSA" when your use S.C injection.
Very curious about NPP, do you used I.M before ? If yes do you notice a difference between I.M ?
Do you have some lump / red ball at the point of injection some day after ?
Try to take some support for your liver you have the choice with
Choose one and take for 4/6 weeks :-)
Thanks to share the results with US
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SwaveyDI’ve read some articles on subq as well, but haven’t noticed any PSA issues with myself. I actually got a prostate test with my most recent bloodwork and noticed no negative effects, still the same as my baseline.
I’ve never used NPP as IM, only as subq, since my dosages are so low. My body reacts negatively to any AAS when I don’t pin daily, so I try to use short esters and keep my dosages somewhat low. I have noticed some small lumps that usually take a day or so to dissolve fully. If I were to run maybe 500mg of a substance, the oil would take longer and I’d have larger oil lumps in my skin.
Hopefully this answered your questions. @lundgren
Looking good +1 sorry to bust on your friend Rusty, I was just joking but I deleted it.
I love Npp. Sweet spot for me is 350-400 mg per week. My favorite things about it are the nitrogen retention, works better than dbol for me in that regard minus the strength. But you have var for that. I like that it is suppressive to cortisol which keeps me in a anabolic state. And of course the joint lubrication. For me I always pair proviron with this compound, it really keeps any water bloating down which really helps with blood pressure.
I had some from this source land in the mail today I'm excited to get it going. Thank you for sharing bloods see you around
SwaveyDAll good, no hard feelings! I get where you were coming from.
I’ve never ran NPP above 200mg a week, I’m scared of side effects honestly. The highest I’ve ran any compound is 500mg of test c. I like to stay on the conservative side and keep everything relatively “low”
Best of luck
Ya know the more I see bloodwork on Anavar the more I realise its not this Liver friendly steroid its claimed to be. I've had bloodwork done this year on just Test and NPP and everything is more or less perfect and falls into range so it cannot be down to those 2 compounds and I was running them much higher.
I realized one thing about oral.
Same compound, same dose, same duration depend the lab the transaminases up more, than other.
Maybe the quality ?
Heavy metal ?
And another things now i check everytime my transaminases before starting any oral incluted proviron, i think it's very important because if your use in theory a safe compound as Oxandrolone but on sick liver = geting for sure not heathly transaminases.
I'm sure at 100% depend the lab / quality the transaminases up more than other brand (I recently had this experience with UG Proviron).
Very true, I didn't realize it jacked lipids so bad so fast I thought that was only at like 100 mg or more Ed. Even at 25 mg which is what I run it at nowadays, it's still jacks up the lip it's pretty good. I take red yeast rice now if I'm going to run var. It helps a lot.
I deleted my posts about joking about your friend Rusty and sorry I didn't mean to bash on fat people I was really just joking around. Crazy how every other stereotype gets bashed on in the manner of all and good fun etc etc. Honestly fat people shouldn't really be here in the first place.. that's my opinion though. Have a good day bro
Buddy no need to apologise at all, myself and rusty had our fair share of arguments over the years too but I just feel its time to move on from it all now. You are clearly of good and humble character for apologising and I'm happy to see you on here
Lifted-presence92Bro it’s not more and more people are catching on now lol I don’t think there is any “safe” oral out there now I know personally I will never cycle one again.
I’ll spot anadrol once every two weeks on a lagging body part but that’s it unless I decide to compete which would be a few years down the road…
I find Orals just aren't sustainable for more than a few weeks on my stomach at best, acid reflux, sore stomach, impaired appetite etc just make me feel miserable. Injectable versions are definitely the way to go but again they will affect liver etc more or less just as badly.
We are old now ... :-) we need to be even more careful on some things particularly for transaminases / lipids.
Now i have the reflexe to use a short ester as kick start than oral.
For exemple if i use Deca, i add some NPP to kick.
Another use short ester of test for a few week with Cypionate / Enanthate etc ...
I think it's a good option.
But i agree oral like Dianabol, Anadrol or ...
the famous Superdrol they are unique and give a special effect on mind and physic ... and in the same time the liver cry after tacking the pills lol.
I have some old batch of the orignal Superdrol, but afraid to use it, good experience in some part, and another part bad experience with some side effect particularly on liver, so i have but i save as collector product lol.
I laugh when I hear var being touted as one of the safer orals. That shit will wreck your lipids faster than pretty much anything out there, winstrol probably the worst, and jacks your AST/ALT just like any other oral.
Proviron a concidered as "safe" oral, but depend the lab, my transaminases up a little bit on 25mg and up a lot from 50mg.
Lot parameter, particularly on the quality of the product (i think) and the genetic / health of the user.
Here the posologie of Oxandrolone are from 2 to 10mg daily for the first use and on notice it's indicated :
"this medication can alter your liver and lipid values"
SwaveyDI’m not sure I’ll run it anymore after this — there’s just better options. I think swapping it for primo would be much better and more friendly on my organs as well.
Anavar definitely raised my ALT/AST significantly (I think baseline I was in the 20s, compared to 77/66 now)
Yes it does that but I wouldn't just say it's all from the anavar, everyone's body is different but I've had NPP raise liver enzymes and also lower good cholesterol (HDL) so you may be experiencing a compound effect or bloods may not be as bad if you ran it without the NPP. Just my opinion on how my body personally reacts on those compounds. Keep up the good work
Primo is definitely healthier if you can afford to run it bud.
Lifted-presence92Keyword afford lol i hate that it’s so dang expensive bro but man do I love primo.
Nice test score for 300mg. Looks like the var is the real deal also since lipids and liver values are starting to go in the gutter. I would split that var up 2x/d.
True, but even without var, I have seen that NPP causes my good cholesterol or HDL to go down and also liver enzymes go up. He is smart to run the NPP low if he is taking a 50 mg anavar every day. Definitely agree though split that var to twice a day
Hey Mak - Larry reckons he has rhabdo just because his CK is over 3000 and his blood sugar keeps crashing, wasn't even hooked up to a drip in his video. I thought MMmmm I'm pretty sure its a lot worse than that Lol
He is doing a photo op
My CK when I had it was over 185,000, high normal is about 100. He is a pussy
He is probably smarter than me and caught it quick. Now that I was aware of it I felt it coming on after another show and just started drinking gallons of gatorade. Didn't need to go to the hospital again fortunately but was just a little sore and cramped up for a couple of days.
SwaveyDThanks for the input. Going forward I definitely will, as I want my bloods to be as stable as possible. But splitting 50mg tabs is a pain — even w a pill splitter — lesson learned to buy 25mg tabs
Sometimes with the UGL var that are scored it is easier to just split them by hand than with a pill cutter. The var I am using now is scored real nice and with a pill cutter it just seems to crumble but is so easy to just split with my fingers and no crumbling.
The new Var I’m running is scored down the middles and are very solid nice tabs. I was taking a whole 50 pre workout but after seeing this and reading your recommendation I’m going to split them up half am half pm