I agree with what he said. Definitely a little on the high side but it’s not through the roof for you to be concerned or it to be not controllable. I think caber is the best at this, if you respond very well to it or haven’t taken it before, I would take 0.25mg twice a week and go from there but rusty might know more. This dose worked for me when I had high prolactin from 19-nors. The symptoms I had that went away as soon as the caber worked were tender pecs/beast tissue and puffy nipples sometimes, not gyno, no lumps or hard tissue inside, just a general feeling of local imflammation is how it presented itself in me. You could be entirely different.
Also, I see your free test is up there but your SHBG is low, this could be expected and normal especially for you right now, but have you considered using Proviron?
Do you think it’s possible it would help his mental sides while getting the prolactin down? Figured it would free up some shbg and make him feel better but I suppose if he doesn’t have it on hand, the caber is going to handle it before it’s an issue for too long. I suppose I’ve just received great mental benefits from Proviron in times where HCG might be making you a little emotional in a bridge or if your libido is down, 100mg of Proviron put me into the next level of libido, worked crazy on me haha.
E2 is not prolactin. 2 methods of control with typically a vommon cause...e2 being too high. E2 isnt too high yet his prolactin is above range...very high. So thats 1 culprit that needs addressing. Not a chemicsl bath.
Yeah, I understand e2, prolactin, estradiol, etc. I was really just banking on the mental/libido benefits from it to ease sides while on caber, caber tended to make me have strange mood swings, it’s odd.
Yeah, it’s high, I’ve just seen it double or triple the reference range and that’s when guys start lactating, I didn’t wanna scare him you know haha point taken, gollactorhea can happen at that prolactin level.
If the E2 were to be elevated instead, this is when you would use something like exemestane or would Arimidex be appropriate?
I agree, see where you are coming from with the chemical bath thing. Just figured Proviron was one of those in the “safe safe” category with maybe some benefit just looking at the shbg. I appreciate the knowledge man.
That’s typical unfortunately. It can cause other things you don’t want either. Does caber at 0.25mg twice a week and if you can get Proviron, running it at 50mg a day or so, it will release more SHBG, increase it, increase your libido and shoot your test up as well, it can actually be used a TRT drug itself, though it never really is as there are much better alternatives.
Typically, you benefit from Proviron the first time you take it for a month or two in a fantastic way, the next times are never as good. I don’t know the scientific explanation but it has to do with your HPTA and the signaling of the release of SHBG, which will also raise free test. As an add on to TRT though, consider it if you are experiencing these things. Proviron is also a fertility drug, will make you more potent even on TRT, often prescribed for that purpose exactly. What you will benefit from the most is the libido and wellbeing boosts in times like this. Having not only caber and AI on hand, but also something like Proviron to make you feel good until the caber works. If erections are any issue, Proviron will work like viagra for most, haha. It’s also nice it has an amazing safety profile, virtually no recorded liver toxicity episodes and it has been journalized by multiple clinicians and researchers of doses up to 150mg a day, I can pull up the study if I searched hard enough but essentially, the study group saw nothing but benefits, increased energy, libido, sense of well-being and higher testosterone levels. It may be a very nice addition to your TRT especially considering how low dosed you are as well and it can’t be argued that it would be extremely beneficial mentally in times such as these, low shbg, high prolactin, etc.
As for the anxiety and such, take caber as soon as possible and do it before bed. You may see a great improvement in well-being within a matter of a day or two. Get your hands on Proviron as soon as possible, try the starting dose of 25mg. You don’t have to run it every day, I like to keep it for moments like this and I always recommend Proviron to anyone looking to gain muscle that has not used it before, at least get the first run benefit out of it. There is anecdotal evidence of this first run benefit, but it’s true. Treat the underlying cause as soon as possible (caber and lower it). If you don’t, you may feel this way for longer than you care for and will end up with a benzo script and a whole other problem. So just deal with it now, it’s no big deal right now.
Right caber has been ordered should I go with the proviron aswell ? Really appreciate all the help
How long after last shot were bloods taken?
4 days after shot
RustyhookerProlactin is really high. B6 at 300mg daily or caber
What symptoms would this cause ? And how much caber ?
Low libido/ED
Lethargy
Headaches
Sensitive nips
Milk in extreme cases
I've had alot of headaches come to think of it !!!
.25mg 2x/wk.
I agree with what he said. Definitely a little on the high side but it’s not through the roof for you to be concerned or it to be not controllable. I think caber is the best at this, if you respond very well to it or haven’t taken it before, I would take 0.25mg twice a week and go from there but rusty might know more. This dose worked for me when I had high prolactin from 19-nors. The symptoms I had that went away as soon as the caber worked were tender pecs/beast tissue and puffy nipples sometimes, not gyno, no lumps or hard tissue inside, just a general feeling of local imflammation is how it presented itself in me. You could be entirely different.
Also, I see your free test is up there but your SHBG is low, this could be expected and normal especially for you right now, but have you considered using Proviron?
Only sides I notice is low libido , no morning wood and sometimes I flush through out the day along with Anxiety. How would the proviron help ?
RustyhookerProvi wont....its not a DA
Do you think it’s possible it would help his mental sides while getting the prolactin down? Figured it would free up some shbg and make him feel better but I suppose if he doesn’t have it on hand, the caber is going to handle it before it’s an issue for too long. I suppose I’ve just received great mental benefits from Proviron in times where HCG might be making you a little emotional in a bridge or if your libido is down, 100mg of Proviron put me into the next level of libido, worked crazy on me haha.
RustyhookerAbove the test says his sbgh IS really low.
E2 is not prolactin. 2 methods of control with typically a vommon cause...e2 being too high. E2 isnt too high yet his prolactin is above range...very high. So thats 1 culprit that needs addressing. Not a chemicsl bath.
Yeah, I understand e2, prolactin, estradiol, etc. I was really just banking on the mental/libido benefits from it to ease sides while on caber, caber tended to make me have strange mood swings, it’s odd.
Yeah, it’s high, I’ve just seen it double or triple the reference range and that’s when guys start lactating, I didn’t wanna scare him you know haha point taken, gollactorhea can happen at that prolactin level.
If the E2 were to be elevated instead, this is when you would use something like exemestane or would Arimidex be appropriate?
I agree, see where you are coming from with the chemical bath thing. Just figured Proviron was one of those in the “safe safe” category with maybe some benefit just looking at the shbg. I appreciate the knowledge man.
That’s typical unfortunately. It can cause other things you don’t want either. Does caber at 0.25mg twice a week and if you can get Proviron, running it at 50mg a day or so, it will release more SHBG, increase it, increase your libido and shoot your test up as well, it can actually be used a TRT drug itself, though it never really is as there are much better alternatives.
Typically, you benefit from Proviron the first time you take it for a month or two in a fantastic way, the next times are never as good. I don’t know the scientific explanation but it has to do with your HPTA and the signaling of the release of SHBG, which will also raise free test. As an add on to TRT though, consider it if you are experiencing these things. Proviron is also a fertility drug, will make you more potent even on TRT, often prescribed for that purpose exactly. What you will benefit from the most is the libido and wellbeing boosts in times like this. Having not only caber and AI on hand, but also something like Proviron to make you feel good until the caber works. If erections are any issue, Proviron will work like viagra for most, haha. It’s also nice it has an amazing safety profile, virtually no recorded liver toxicity episodes and it has been journalized by multiple clinicians and researchers of doses up to 150mg a day, I can pull up the study if I searched hard enough but essentially, the study group saw nothing but benefits, increased energy, libido, sense of well-being and higher testosterone levels. It may be a very nice addition to your TRT especially considering how low dosed you are as well and it can’t be argued that it would be extremely beneficial mentally in times such as these, low shbg, high prolactin, etc.
As for the anxiety and such, take caber as soon as possible and do it before bed. You may see a great improvement in well-being within a matter of a day or two. Get your hands on Proviron as soon as possible, try the starting dose of 25mg. You don’t have to run it every day, I like to keep it for moments like this and I always recommend Proviron to anyone looking to gain muscle that has not used it before, at least get the first run benefit out of it. There is anecdotal evidence of this first run benefit, but it’s true. Treat the underlying cause as soon as possible (caber and lower it). If you don’t, you may feel this way for longer than you care for and will end up with a benzo script and a whole other problem. So just deal with it now, it’s no big deal right now.
Rustyhooker@Makwa ^^^^^ this guy