posted Mon, 12/02/2024 - 05:36
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+ 2 blood work on os gear Nakon 500mg a week every 3.5 days.
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I tested blood 2 hours before next pin. I will say I might not be the best responder because i tested another source at 500mg a week as well and was barely over 1900. might do 750mg next cycle or maybe even 1g.
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Back when I was testing regularly 500mg/week put me right in the 2500 range on test e. So you're not too far off how many weeks were you at time of test 6 weeks is a good test point
i believe it was around 9 weeks when i tested it
Good to see testing!
Looks low but repeat blood tests help show if its you or the brand
i think it was me, the first brand gave me insane pip though, don't know if its just test E that hurts or if TEST C is just better. going with TEST C from now on lol
Its the brewer, oil used etc. Ive had oils that irritated and different source was excellent. One factor. Pinning rotation and style is another which is user error/learning curve. When youre new just stick to the doses a pharmacy uses. Enth can be modified up to 500mg per cc by brewing. Cyp is tough past 200 without added modifications. Some oils are smooth for me but not others. Were all unique like that. Warming the oil or barrel with rice bag to roughly 85deg helps. Barrel to lip same as feeding a baby so its not overheated. Technique. Hot pad if needed and do NOT massage pin spot. Youll learn quickly. Good luck!
Did you get your estrogen tested?
it was 109
That's more than double what it should be. Did you use an A.I.?
i used 12.5 once a week on Monday pins. i didn't really have sides beside oily face, and a little bit of acne.
High estrogen can cause low libido and erectile dysfunction.
Your not that off. The rule of thumbs 500ng per 100mg test. Give or take. In your case take. Nakon has some good gear though don't they. Do you feel better on the nakon than the other sources u scored lower on?
tbh i felt the same on both sources. before i started i got tested and was at 290ng/dl and didn't feel any different even when i got to 2000ng/dl. I was hoping it would give me all the libido increase and all the other effects but nothing.
Nakon is really smooth, no pip, the other source gave me some bad pip which was Test e 300mg/ml
Yeah i like nakon. That's crazy though you didn't feel any difference. I usually get an adrenaline rush type feeling and fast breathing like i could take off running through a wall once my system is saturated. Especially with nakon. That gear makes me feel great. The libido thing too... idk.
How many weeks were you doing these cycles?
What kind of test was it to. I feel more of test e than test c. And even more off sust. Maybe that ester just don't mix with u.
i was planning on 20 weeks but hurt my pec and shoulder so stopped at 18 weeks lol. the 1900 ng/dl was TEST E and nakon was TEST C. i did test e for like 10 weeks then nakon for 8. i think maybe test c might be better since i had 200 more total and free test but who knows
If your looking for that more euphoric feel give sustanon a shot. Maybe throw some Proviron in to that always boost that feeling also. The test c may have been higher because it lingers in the body longer so Thera was more built up in your system.
Be careful i ruptured disc's in my back 7 years ago it sucked i couldn't do nothing not even curl 20s i was devastated. Warm up and take your time. Don't hit body parts to close together that aren't healed.
thanks for the advice brother. i did try to be careful since it was my first time using gear. on bench days i would do 5 warms up sets before i did working sets. i did my first working set of 245 for 10 but strained it, dropped it to 225 and only did 5 reps and just stopped any chest exercises. i was so sad lol. maybe next cycle i can get to 315 for reps
Yeah that's good u stopped. Def better not to let the ego get ahold with something like that. You'll get to the 315 no problem if your hitting 245 like that. Don't forget dips weighted and unweighted for reps reps reps. And i like doing push up at the end of chest with my feet on the flat hand angles in slightly just inside shoulder width and just bang out 2 or 3 sets to failure. Trust me idky but that makes my bench strong. I go 225 for 10 315 for 10 345 for sometimes 13 or 14 but mostly i just do 2 sets of it for 10 and i workout by myself unracking it everything. But yeah dips and push ups and pull ups never sleep on them. Funny story i was in the gym yesterday did bent row, single arm dumbbell row, was going by the pull up and a kid asked how much i with then asked some questions about workouts so i got to the pull up part abs he like u can do pull up he said if like to see that i was like well I'm about to do em right now i how on the bar and knock out 12 on my 3rd exercise he couldn't believe it guess cuz I'm so big he didn't think i could do pull up. Lol. That was actually the first thing he asked how much i weigh
His nitric oxide might be low that’s why he is not feeling the rush I would suggest you start taking l arginine and l citurlline both that can help with that a bit. Did you also get your vitamin d level checked as that can play a very big part with your hormones, if it’s under 30 I would recommend start taking 10000iu of d3 for at least 2 or 3 months until you reach levels between 60 and 80, that will help increase your libido and sex drive hope that helps.
i did not get my vit D levels checked. ill do that before i run my next cycle to see where everything is at. i drink a shit ton of milk so i was hoping that would enough, and i take 5000iu of vir d here and there.
I see u like some nakon and Ultima yourself huh. Lol. That's be interesting if the nitric oxide was low. I've never heard that before. Vit d.. Def affect sex drive shouldn't really matter hormone wise cuz he is putting exogenous test in his body so his body isn't making any hormones. 10000iu of d3 for 2 or 3 months that's allot. Vit d can be very toxic at higher levels and cause major issues. 5000 should be fine. And some zinc magnesium. Zma. If your going that route. But zma should be in anyone's regimen who works out. And vit d especially at higher latitudes
They cause no pip at all for me and feel great my only problem would be the cialis and Viagra I tried with them was bad
I had the same issue he is experiencing for a while and it turns out that my vitamin d was deficient and had very low nitric oxide . I did the vitamin d3 10000 iu with vitamin k so it wouldn’t affect me negatively but since my levels were extremely low the doctor recommended I take that dosage for some time until my vitamin d level go back to normal
Tru.. makes sense. I just know someone who was taking to much vit d that didn't need it and ended up in the hospital my cousin actually.
Yeah honestly i want too impressed with nakon anadrol the winstrol was great though. Their orals are very brittle also. Maybe they're not best for that. But the oils are good strong shit. Thick oil. And i feel like they don't use allot of solvents. I actually been thinking about putting in a nakon order.
citrulline used to help with boners like it would be solid. it stopped working. i used Viagra and Cialis and it helps a little bit. ill get my vit D levels checked to see if that is the reason
I would also look into vitamin e as that one usually effects desires also but if you are only worried about libido I would recommend sunflower lecithin you will have some holy grail loads --
how much sunflower lecithin should i take per day?
funny thing i will say is that my blood pressure dropped 20 points systolic so 125 then dropped to around 110-105 once i hopped on gear. diastolic is around 70-60 after gear, was around 85 before i hopped on. i was hypogonadal i think since i was at 290ng/dl so maybe the test helped lol idk though.
Normal dosage of 1200 mg would be more than enough if you are already taking l citurlline . But you should definitely get another blood work and test for everything, thyroid, your coastal levels, all your vitamins, test levels check levels for your sex binding hormone
Not to hope on your Convo here. That's just the opposite of what being in a cycle does. Usually your bp goes up
yea i know, i thought it was strange because everything i have read said it increases blood pressure but for some reason it dropped when i hopped on. I'm crusing right now and it still is in the 110-105 range. i ain't complaining though lol.
Yeah you'd be lucky af. Lol. I saw someone say something about estrogen. I don't use a.i. I'll use nolvadex or clomid if gyno flare otherwise nothing high arpeggios will make u bigger and stronger it will also increase your sex drive. There is a point out can be too high but i highly doubt your in that range. A.I.'s are over used. Guys in the 80s and before never used anti estrogen u know and look at them. Lol
I may have to try that. Trying to get pregnant over here lol. Wow i have to edit this. I just looked up sunflower lecithin and it's benefits for a cycle are endless liver protection help cholesterol insulin sensitivity. Cardiovascular health. Sheesh is like the perfect supplement to counter act sides from gear. I am about to order some right now. Lol good looking inadvertently on that one. Lol. Sounds like something every on gear should have in their supp regimen.
Haha we will let it slide. I’m not on it currently but it’s one of my favorites specially in bed haha when it comes to load size , I’m about to experiment with yohimbine hcl i seen some people report having increased metabolism and able to lose stubborn fat faster on top of having the craziest boners they ever had when combining with l arginine and l citurlline
They always put that in those gas station bonner pills. Lol. You ever use hcg that suppose to make u have big loads also.
Can’t trust what in those ones honestly a lot of chemicals and it’s only once the main reason I’m doing it this way because it will help in the long run when you do it for long period of time on smaller dosage, yes I’m actually currently running hcg 500iu every other day from ultima and 200 of test c from ultima to bring back my natural production it’s been two weeks i definitely feel better but I’m feeling so much better when I added the vitamin d and l citurlline with l arginine and now it will also be adding yohimbine for increased benefits I also been doing bpc157 peptide for healing and it’s been doing its job so when I blast my cycle I will be able to get full benefits.
The bpc make the mk677 work alot better too or hgh.
Yeah Def don't mess with those gas station concoctions lol.
There allot of peptides for feel good effects. Glutathione. Nad+ L carnatine. There crazy about them on discord And other forums. Dudes are on 10 diff peptides. Ghk cu another mot s mot c. So many. I think the benefits so minimal is a waste for most. I do feel mk677 works better while using bpc cuz it stimulates the hgh receptors.
That Ultima is some good shit but boy is it expensive. U try meta gear b4? It's right there with Ultima.
Oh also they have vitamin packs that are IV. Some people swear by those too.
For me I've never noticed any crazy diff from a vitamin or supplement. Maybe creatine caffeine obv. Beta alanine. I like glutamine too
I will be including lecithin as I have tried it before and that thing was a life changer but I’m waiting to see what benefits I would get from doing the stuff I’m doing now