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just got my bloods before I ramp it up been using 180 mg of test cyp a week for about 70 days now split into M/W/F IM with slin pin. There was a lot of talk about 87 cyp not pulling good numbers so I hope this helps. Love being apart of the community and big thanks to everyone on here putting out good info.

PS free test was at 335.3 was on the next page

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Legion of Doom's picture

Those are great number I’m looking forward to running 87s test e and c.

Badgoat1's picture

Dude you're either a great responder or that Test is way overdosed. 500mgs of pharma only puts me at 2500 but at least we know this source is legit. Thanks for bloods.

DeeMan's picture

I think that test c Jano tested at 234mg/ml. Damn 2500 on 500mg pharma? Figured minimum of 3000. But that's how it is sometimes. Our bodies react differently

Sosa123's picture

I was thinking about doing slin pins to smaller muscles with gear , I’ve done it with peptides a few years ago ….

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SimonM84's picture

I’m not sure if it was you or one of the other well respected members but I’m interested in pinning GH IM into biceps or tricep area as there've been claims made that IM GH injections cause muscle growth within pinned sites.

HanginLow's picture

IM GH just changes the peak and duration to be higher / faster because muscle has better blood flow than fat

https://www.nature.com/articles/pr19812231#:~:text=I.m.%20injections%20l....

I am not sure about localized effects of pinning but I prefer IM to SubQ for higher peak.

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SimonM84's picture

@Ghost @HanginLow thank you for the clarification.

Gh0st's picture

Ahh I see it now. I sent this link to @HanginLow not to long ago. But it has made me dig a lot more into the research and I haven’t been very impressed with what I’ve found. Some food for thought anyways. It’s extensive but worth the time imo. @Dwayne44 you will appreciate this too.

https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1038/bjp.2008.153

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DeeMan's picture

Wow Interesting.I just glared over some of this info and let me tell you, this is very comprehensive and useful information. This area is somewhat new to me, but not totally new to me as I didn't realize that "GH increases skeletal muscle IGF-1 mRNA production in hypophysectomized rats 20 fold, whereas the increase observed after IGF-1 treatment is only 2.5 fold."...I didn't realize this big of a margin displayed, the extent (20 fold vs. 2.5).

Very good info. I have to complete my reading of this but I appreciate you tagging me to this .+1

Gh0st's picture

Welcome brother

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DeeMan's picture

Just got off work so a little drowsy and tired but good read...yessir!

Gh0st's picture

Hell I do not miss night shifts!

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DeeMan's picture

Where did you get that info? I remember you said that yesterday. Might be something to it. Probably why we saw so many huge guts among 90's bodybuilders and some now.

eighty7's picture

If that was true HGH penis injections would be the norm

DeeMan's picture

Lol man don't give juiceheads any ideas...someone headed to bathroom right now with GH vial in hand

Sosa123's picture

Imma have to take ya word on it …. That’ll give my other muscles some rest too

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DeeMan's picture

I've traveled there before. Pic is of a place called Haters Land, population 1! Lmao. Pay zero land taxes too. I'm sure you can digg that.

SimonM84's picture

Fantastic, thank you +1

DeeMan's picture

About how many days after last pin did you have blood taken? @mason548

mason548's picture

I pinned monday when I woke up to head to work blood was drawn on tuesday the 27th at about 11 am fasted give or take a half hour

DeeMan's picture

so about 24 hrs later. Ok cool. That will work. Thanks

smurfdude1234567's picture

Thanks for the bloods!

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DeeMan's picture

Again thanks for testing. This was definitely needed for some folks regardless of past bloods with this test c. This is a big part of the community bro. You did well

Makwa's picture

thanks for testing Good

eighty7's picture

Thanks for posting.

Diesel22's picture

Thanks for sharing your bloodwork.

mason548's picture

Im lean enough to hit my delts, traps and pecs with a 5/8ths thanks guys for the feed back happy lifting as always.

DeeMan's picture

5/8ths? You're not referring to slin pins right? This is regular syringe correct?

mason548's picture

Your right Dwayne my mistake I looked the ones I’m using are half inch 27 g

DeeMan's picture

It's all good my man. Lol I've been around too long...I'm a damn Dinosaur.

Gh0st's picture

Didn’t even realize slin pins came 5/8ths. Thought they were all 5/16th or 1/2in

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DeeMan's picture

Doesn't look underdosed to me.

Gh0st's picture

Nice. Unless you’re super lean it’s pretty doubtful you’re really hitting IM with a skin pin. But solid numbers nonetheless. Thanks for sharing.

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smurfdude1234567's picture

I’m relatively sure even at my fattest (20%+) I could get shallow IM with a 5/8”. Bicep/Tri/Delts. Fat guys could even flex pin or landmark after flexing but not the best options. For cycle you virtually have to do at-least 1” in my opinion. Anything lower half of the body you’re not gonna truly get deep IM even if you’re lean. This is coming from the guy who still hypes himself up in the mirror for slin pin injections…

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Gh0st's picture

RBP is one of my faves

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DeeMan's picture

Good point, it's a matter of location and needle length +1

eighty7's picture

Shoulders and arms I'd say yes but for glutes maybe not.

Gh0st's picture

Biceps triceps for sure even delts though I think most people have a solid quarter inch subQ fat. Definitely not getting very deep if at all. Glutes not a chance. I do love slin pins for daily pins though especially towards end of prep.

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eighty7's picture

I can pin triceps but I hate doing biceps it doesn't feel right.

Gh0st's picture

Still don’t have the balls to try either idk. No rhyme or reason sometimes I’ll have PIP with simple TRT Test Cyp in the glute so f*ck me if I’d ever try arms I prolly have to start with 0.1ml knowing my luck.

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SimonM84's picture

I want to try GH in biceps/triceps

Gh0st's picture

Thoughts on why? When I was running InfraJet and Insubolic I was doing spot injections to biceps with slin pins

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DeeMan's picture

Never heard this before. Wonder if more folks do this.