posted Sat, 03/28/2026 - 15:19
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Another rapid t/a w/Bio Pharma! It was so easy, a cave man can do it! Hahaha! Haven't ran a short ester cycle in a bit. Looking forward to this one. Let's see how she goes...
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How’s the cycle going so far ?
Enjoy . Running some of his stuff now and enjoying it
Nice TD buddy
Nice bro! I've never ran a short ester but have a vial of test p on its way from a different source. I'm currently running test cyp but pinning every day. I feel like I should just run test p over test cyp with my dosing frequency. Any advice/tips/tricks with test p? Any big difference between the esters in terms of feeling and/or performance? Between the GH, test and primo, reta, NAD+ and glutathione, I'm basically a human pin cushion. I wouldn't have it any other way though!
Ultimately, it's a matter of preference brother. Nothing wrong with ED injections of Test Cyp in terms of "micro-dosing." Less hormonal fluctuations, i.e., more stability with your levels. There will be volume difference due to concentration of test p vs. test c. Differences, as far as esters, the consensus with test p seems to be less water retention and less estrogenic side effects.
It's been awhile, but for me what I've experienced with test p that I notice compared to some longer ester compounds is an increase in energy, I tend to "feel" it more, and I notice my results/strength increases a lot sooner. I don't really deal with many estrogenic side effects or any aromatization in general... well, depending on what I'm running and what I'm dosing at. Other than that, it really just comes down to the individual, preference, and need.
I don't have much advise for you with the exception of test p can have a little more pip at times, and I'd suggest rotating injection sites with as frequent as you have to pin it. I don't know what you're running your primo at, but Primo tends to keep my E2 in check, so I'd be surprised if estrogenic effects would be a concern for you just running test c and primo. I'm still running test cyp with these esters too though. This order is just part of my next cycle:
Test Cyp 200mg/wk (Week 1-10)
Test P 100mg/EOD (Week 2-10)
NPP 100mg/EOD (Week 2-10)
Proviron 50mg/ED (Week 1-10)
Tbol 50mg/ED (Week 4-10)
SLU-PP-332 500mcg/ED (Week 1-10)
HGH 4iu/ED (ongoing)
Aromasin/Caber (as/if needed)
Appreciate the detailed response, this is really helpful.
For some context on my end, I actually had elevated E2 (around 85) when I was only running 140mg/week of Test Cyp, even with EOD injections. After that, I introduced Primo at 105mg/week and dropped Test Cyp to 120mg/week, switching to ED pinning (both in the same syringe). That brought my E2 down pretty significantly to 47.
Since then, I’ve moved to a 1:1 ratio 120mg Test Cyp + 120mg Primo per week, still doing ED injections. I’m planning to pull labs about 4–6 weeks into this setup to see where everything lands.
The faster onset with Test P and that “feel” you mentioned is definitely something that interests me. I’ve heard similar feedback from others too. That’s part of what’s making me consider experimenting with it.
Quick question on your cycle layout. Are you running Test Cyp and Test P at the same time?
Still dialing things in on my end and trying to find what works best so I can lock it in and grow consistently.
I'm curious as to why you're dosing so low? 120mg/wk of test cyp is basically a TRT dose. Also, primo is an expensive compound. 120mg/wk on primo... I can't imaging you'd gain much from it and it almost seems wasteful. I don't run primo at anything less than 600mg/wk (some people here will argue 400mg/wk is an ideal starting dose). How much experience do you have with AAS? Yes, I will be running the test cyp and test p simultaneously.
I’m new to AAS game. My whole approach has been low and controlled to see how I personally respond before pushing doses.
The main reason I started around a TRT-level dose is because I wanted a clean baseline and to monitor how my body reacts across key health markers, not just physique/performance.
-My total test only went from 733 (baseline) to 1010 on 120–140mg/week
-Free test roughly doubled (85 to 170)
-But my estradiol still spiked up to 85 at one point before I adjusted things
-Hematocrit also crept up toward 51%
-HDL dropped from 60 to 45 (even lower during Anavar)
At what looks like a “low” dose, I’m responsive, especially on the estrogen and lipid side of the house.
That’s really why I introduced Primo conservatively and adjusted ratios instead of just ramping everything up. When I added 105mg Primo and dropped test slightly, my E2 came down from 85 to 47, which was a big improvement without needing an AI.
Now I’m at a 1:1 (120/120) setup and just letting things stabilize before pulling labs again. My goal right now is to find a sustainable baseline where:
-E2 is controlled without AI
-Lipids and hematocrit stay in range
-BP stays consistent (mine’s been solid so far)
Once I understand how I respond at this level, I’ll scale up more confidently.
I get your point on Primo dosing though, I’ve seen the 400-600mg range mentioned a lot. I just don’t feel comfortable jumping there yet without knowing how my body handles the basics first. You're right it is expensive. I've dropped a pretty penny thus far on gear and labs, but I've been lovin the journey. I used to spend stupid money on food and beverage every weekend, so I figured I just shift that money into something more health conscious than getting hammered.
Hey man, whatever works for you is what works for you. That's what matters. In all honesty though, you're not getting a whole lot out of the primo at that dose... imo. If I were you, I'd just cut it and save the money. If you're worried about estrogenic effects and want to avoid AIs as much as possible give proviron a shot. There are a lot of other perks to running proviron that I'd suggest looking into as well. Are you taking any support supplements? Also, consider donating blood if you start dealing with frequently elevated HCT. To be frank, at 40 with a baseline test of 733. I don't think I'd even mess with AAS if you're content at a 1010. There are other compounds you can take out there that you could likely take and acquire some benefit with out supressing your natural testosterone.
I appreciate the insight man.
I’ll definitely look more into Proviron. I’ve heard it come up but haven’t dug into it deeply yet, so that’s a good callout.
As far as support, I’ve been pretty consistent there. Running omega-3s, TUDCA, citrus bergamot, NAC, psyllium husk, etc. Trying to stay ahead of things on the health side as much as possible.
The hematocrit piece is where it gets a little tricky for me. Mine has crept up, but I have to be careful with donating blood because my ferritin already runs on the lower side. So I’m trying to manage that without digging myself into another hole.
And yeah, you’re not wrong, I know I’m in a pretty solid spot naturally. I think part of it is just me being curious and wanting to see what’s possible on the “mild” side of things. Probably a bit of that “grass is greener on the otherside” mindset if I’m being honest.
Really do appreciate you taking the time to share your experience. I’m always trying to pick up knowledge from guys who’ve been at this longer.