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You know the name Qtropin hGH and Insubolic rhIGF-1 ftw !!

Packaging came on a cold pack, fast TA! I'm excited for my next blast and of course it ain't a blast without quality hGH and the icing on the cake is, oh so sweet, rhIGF-1 Insubolic because it's for human use and is much more potent (bioactivity test) and actually effective, unlike IGF-1 LR3 or DES that was only used for a reaction in a petri dish.

As you can see I have more vested in the Insubolic as it greatly enhances recovery of your OVERALL body, not just muscles. But the way it utilizes food it is just as effective staying full longer and looking like you're pumped up all day look. And the safety is there as this can be ran through a cycle or PCT. I am running higher rhIGF-1 because I see better results than running higher amounts of hGH, not saying hGH is not needed, but it can be limited to a smaller amount since you're using doses of IGF-1 through the day. An analogy I see is like Insubolic is fast hGH or something... meaning you see visual results faster! You know how you feel after a brutal lifting session how beat up you are? And the "wear and tear" injuries add up! This is the solution as it's proven to strengthen connective tissues, aid in muscle recovery, and stimulate the growth of skeletal muscle tissue. FYI check out the new boxes and pamphlet!! The last picture shows the old one for reference...looks much sharper ;-)

I got 3 Insubolic and 1 Qtropin will be ran as follows:
2iu's hGH ED morning fast
100mcg 2x a day /pre-workout/second with heaviest carb meal
200mcg per day gives me 75 days
2ius per day gives me 50 days. (May ramp up to 4ius max)
(I'm cutting the last 25 days because you drop a lot of the hGH water and the Insubolic holds it's own towards peak conditioning.

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press1's picture

I've been wanting to try some of this for a long time, just can't quite stretch to it on top of gear. Is the recovery rate speeded up on this then pal?

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IronMind's picture

Very accelerated recovery rate!! Less gear use

roidsource's picture

WOW! THANK YOU, IronMind for posting the great info and pics!
I remember I got a sample of IGF-1 from the lab, I was off gear and off HGH. I was really cautious about starting the IGF-1. The difference was really noticeable : no water retention, rush of energy, nootropic like effect, the pump from 200 mcg was amazing, something I never had from HGH solo. I'm glad you are enjoying it! =)

RS

press1's picture

I need some too!! LOL

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Gh0st's picture

Mine just landed today as well brother! Will get pics up later had to rush out and only had time to get one up. T/A was 4 days item was received Monday by carrier looks like but that “ice pack” might as well have been a bag of water :( hoping the heat didn’t do any damage.

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roidsource's picture

The truth about the ice packs is they last only for 6 hr, but, the good thing is the IGF-1 or HGH are not that fragile as most people prone to believe. One of the pack we shipped to EU spent 30 days in transit, with no ice, there's 1-2 % loss in HGH concentration. (which could be an analytical error). That's 30 days in transit vs 4 days in transit.

RS

IronMind's picture

Nice brother! Damn Labor day :-( ...but if it was "insulated" as was it's still very stable and safe! Nice amber vials also protect from light but yup got em in the fridge with a quickness too lol

SolDier_5's picture

These new logos look beautiful brother enjoy this Run!
I had a great recovery while off cycle been on insubolic 200 mcg pre-and 200 post workout just insane feeling.
No sugar cravings as with the GH and NO bloating

Big_Ape's picture

I love insubolic. I think the shorter half-life makes it superior to iGF-LR3. I used LR3 with great success in the past, but it gave me a huge gut, feet and skull. At least the gut went away. I haven't noticed anything like that with the insubolic. Just great recovery and an awesome 3D look. Great product

Makwa's picture

I have been curious about the insubolic. I have ran IGF-LR3 and was very impressed by it. Will have to try the insubolic and see which I like better.

IronMind's picture

Yes sir, certainly is faster acting and more potent. I got IGF-1 LR3 while I was using Quantropin hGH, it did some with nice pumps and recovery but I also attribute that to the cycle I was on. With Insubolic I almost forgot what sore was because I was recovering so quickly per session. I wish I was in better condition (physically before my surgery) because I could have easily trained 2-3x a day....building and shaping lagging parts.

lift heavy's picture

Nice order boss

IronMind's picture

Thank you sir! Qtropin train is rollin' :-)

Makwa's picture

200mcg/d. How did you come up to that dose? Have you tried it lower?

IronMind's picture

Yes, I've gone lower and higher also split doses @80mg ×3 times a day with meals. The safety in this drug is you can use quite a bit without "harmful" effects...I've seen different protocol. But based on what I was using with taboo, I then judged what amount per meal or pre-workout was sufficient enough to replace that dosage. And the ballpark seems to be 80-120mcg for myself in utilizing my carbs. Based on diet and genetic factor I can see adequate results for normal people in the range of 50-100mcg per dose. Also side note this is running hGH @2ius as mentioned, I would possibly run Insubolic solo in the range of 300-400mcg without hGH.

Makwa's picture

I am always cautious running LR3 since your gut and intestines have a huge number of IGF receptors and the last thing I need is turtle gut. Just trying to wrap my mind around how this might be different than LR3 if we are running higher doses. Most I went up to with LR3 was 50mcg, usually taken pre-WO.

IronMind's picture

rhIGF-1 has the affinity to bid up with IGFBP3 in your blood since it's biomarkers match recombinant human DNA. This prolongs the half-life of IGF by binding it up and releasing it in the body (the IGFBP3 is also a transporter getting the IGF to where it needs to be your muscle not gut). It should be VASTLY superior to des or LR3. It has been a holy grail for years now. IGF-1 LR3 inhibits the movement of glucose into the body cells which facilitates fat burning and the use of fat in the body for the production of energy. It is also much more potent than base IGF since it's stays in your system longer. And taboo as we know can wreck havoc opening both fat and muscle stores/get massive looking but not as sharp. DES IGF-1 is a shorter version of the base IGF-1 chain. This variant of IGF-1 is five times more potent than the regular base IGF-1. It has a half-life of about twenty to thirty minutes which indicates that it is a very delicate chain. Basically, you need less amounts of LR3 or DES because their alterations cause different effects, rhIGF-1 seems to work through the proper pathways

IronMind's picture

See that's the part of the key issue I had, running high hGH amounts etc, I wasn't processing the food as efficiently without taboo, but IGF works the same way, since it's faster acting short half life it get the job done faster opening up the IGF receptors around recovery. It's all utilized more efficiently and you don't have the typical bloat or water retention. My abdomen is what honestly starting to get outta control, but Insubolic properties with how quickly it works it's helped lessen the visceral fat stores around my waist and improve my muscular structure of my abs even, this stuff keeps your waist tight and I do heavy compound lift and enough training where I should get a powerlifting obliques popping waist. I don't even use a weight belt much anymore. With high hGH I was getting a GH gut. I think if anything the LR3 must stay in your system longer? Release inadequate times where it would be more prone to those digestive gut issues. I know one thing is you gotta be careful and make sure you aren't sick or have any type of risk of cancer it can you enhance the growth of good and bad cells. With IGF-1 LR3/DES I can see more side effects as it's not approved for clinical use. Insubolic is basically Increlex and it's been proven to be effective. Plus the dosages you'd be choking seeing it if 50mcg was your limit I think it's like 2mg per dose!!! So, yeah I think dosages even as high as 200mcg at once is fine. Only one time I felt hypo effects and it was because I hadn't eaten properly that day.

Makwa's picture

It seems to me then that the best timing for this would still be post-WO when we have the most IGF receptors upregulated from an intense workout or are you using this in place of another compound to shuttle nutrients. Maybe we should go to PM or advance group where we can talk more openly instead of dancing around things.

IronMind's picture

Yes, it has a much higher affinity when bound to an IGF-1 receptor than taboo. It's best timing I believe is during your post workout meal because of the flood of nutrients and to repair damage. Pre-workout is also sufficient because of it's ability to regulate carbs though, so an intra workout shake would be necessary to hold that "pump" and fullness. Some of the IGF receptors if injected locally have been shown to induce a hyperplasia effects as well (which many like training that body part trying to bring up) The best part is the synergistic effect because of hGH ran in high amounts create a decrease in insulin sensitivity, and an increase in insulin resistance, Insubolic balances this by increasing insulin sensitivity shuttling carbs which decreases your insulin resistance.
I'm going to be posting my cycle in the adv section so we can chat there more or PM, appreciate the questions sir

Makwa's picture

Ok

maddogg's picture

Good info there.