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Have contacted PM roids but had 2 vials do this, the rubber has completely degraded. Never had this issue before, the first vial I had to bin towards the end as the rubber stopper crumbled into the solution. Anyone else had an issue with this NPP 150?

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dmxinyourface's picture

I had same issue with Osgear and it was Ultima Test E 250. It was 2 vials with rubber ending in liquid. I had big infection in my glute. They did nothing about it as it was promo. So you're lucky for the reship. I wanted to post long time ago. Now I see I am not the only one. Beligas, Ultima and Nakon are all the same. Just different labels.

Claudezilla's picture

Yep all my npp 150 from them had janky rubber almost looked like it was over pressurized but it wasn’t none of the other oils I had from them had the issue just the npp

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Tits and Mass's picture

That's exactly what it looked like mate, bulged out at top then this one just popped it's mad, ive had one vial in the past go opposite like negative vaccum too

pmroids's picture

Thanks for contacted with PMR Team and they had already replied to progress and will reship items asap.

PMRoids.

Tits and Mass's picture

Thank you sir,
They are dealing with the issue. Top source, nothing against PM was just seeing if anyone else had similar issues with brand.

dmxinyourface's picture

I had same issue month ago, just posted. It seems they are using now a bad quality rubber stop. I've used Ultima, Nakon and Beligas for 5 years pretty much all the oils. First time ever it happens.

Codeman253's picture

Pmroids are the best they'll definitely take care of it for you.

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Hmm looks just like someone cut through that or poked a large gauge syringe until it punched a hole..

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Tits and Mass's picture

Usually use 21g Greens to draw, did that on the first batch. Resulted in stopper degrading badly at about 30% left with particles in solution never an issue on any other stoppers in all these years, changed to 23g blues on the second, 2 pins in and this happened, even tried to see if it was over pressured or under pressured with a smaller gauge but it wasn't then came to pin and it was like that

Treninator's picture

I personally think Ultima is a better lab. Shitty this happened man hopefully beligas takes care of this problem.

Toadking's picture

Oh man, that’s compromised. I definitely wouldn’t pin it. That’s one thing I’ve noticed lately, not just with Beligas but with others on here as well. Rubber stoppers dissolving, caps falling off. I’ve seen photos on here where the cap crimps are fully set down, which shouldn’t be happening.

I understand that labs are busy and pushing a lot of volume, but at the same time it really feels like standards have slipped. Being busy isn’t an excuse for compromised sterility or poor packaging

Tits and Mass's picture

Such a strange occurrence, one i can accept as faulty, but two is juat ridiculous. Belgias was meant to be up there for quality.

Claudezilla's picture

They moved production from Belgium to India and………don’t get me wrong I still like the lab but was a little thrown off by the move

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Skinnyboy63's picture

Your in good hands with PMR bud

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Tits and Mass's picture

I have no doubts the oil is great its just the rubber stoppers, smaller than the rest I've encountered and very very sketchy

BillyBear's picture

I just checked my Deca from Beligas (a PMR buy 1, get 1) and the seal looks good.

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Gotem69's picture

I definitely would throw that away immediately and glad you didn't get an abcess.

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DieselSemi's picture

Happened to me as well. I filtered it and transferred to a new sterile vial but probably gonna just toss it

Tits and Mass's picture

Yeah ive drawn up what was left into a syringe but will check before even thinking of pinning the rest. Shame really as it's felt quality gear too

DieselSemi's picture

If you don't toss it definitely filter it with a .22 um syringe filter. That should catch almost anything even some bacteria.

Tits and Mass's picture

Cheers mate, will grab some for future just in case. Never thought I'd ever need them but it could be a sign of the times ahead

Theiceman's picture

I have not had a great feeling or experience with Beligas in the last 6months. I’ve seen a couple of these situations, pretty sure the test e 300 I was running was way under dosed as my bloods came back way off. And before that I had some of their anavar lite that just didn’t hit like it usually does. Hopefully PM takes care of you on this one.

Thethunker's picture

Have you seen the whole Deligas vs Beligas thing going around? Weird ah packaging change some saying its fake or quality went down idk tbh -- just word on the street
I've also heard mention storing vials on their side can eat away the rubber

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Tits and Mass's picture

Hopefully it's not a sign of times to come with all these potentially tainted cheaper raws, I miss the old Chinese source. You expect this quality from cheap labs not Belgias

BillyBear's picture

Never seen a photo of it but have heard of this happening before. I don’t personally know what causes this issue.
PMR is an excellent source and I’m sure will make things right.

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Tits and Mass's picture

Its almost like the stopper just gave up and, pinned with 21g and even that damaged the first vial to the point I seen rubber floating in solution wo binned the rest

BillyBear's picture

Man, that sucks. I would ask if you have a smaller gauge needle to test but it sounds like both vials are trashed.

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Tits and Mass's picture

I've upto 27g so might have to try that on my last vial, which is now since basically the last two vials I've binned haha

BillyBear's picture

Good luck!

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