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Hello eroids community
I started a cycle about 9 weeks ago which consists of test e "200 mg week"and primo "500 mg week" from reliable sources, around a couple weeks ago I started experiencing this itchiness that wouldn't go away. I've looked into what the itchiness actually is and it appears to be this condition called dermatographic urticaria, when scratching the area that itches it produces welts.
Upon further research I found this can be caused by elevated cortisol levels but is most common when coming off cycle. I was running aromasin for a few weeks but decided to stop because i really wasn't experiencing bloat or any thing estrogen related but now I'm contemplating heading back on.
I know I can simply stop this cycle but I've come so far and really started to see quality definition and gains, it just sucks to have to stop. Has anyone ever experienced this? Any advice to combat dermatographic urticaria? Thank you Eroids
Simon
The above message was posted 3 weeks ago and here are the labs from blood work
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The itchiness may be going around, my wife and I both have had weird hive like lumps the last few weeks and others I talk to are experiencing similar issues. I am at a loss on what or where they are coming from. With me I could see it being from hormones but with her there is no reason and hers are worse.
With the creatine you say you aren't hitting your target water consumption, start there. I am surprised at your estro levels on such a mild dose. I run similar with test C and feel like my estro is fine without any AI. I am way overdue to get bloods tho so I guess I need to step to the plate on that as well.
That's pretty strange, I'm going to rule out water because I drink bottled water. Don't eat meat so that's out, I am running GH that might be factor. I'm actually coming off next week so hopefully this will change the outcome. As far as my estro goes I'm just very prone to having high estrogen m, that's why I never look real lean on cycle, hell sometimes I look better off without test. Hope it gets resolved with your wife. I'll update soon
You bathe in water tho
A lot of areas are having water issues, I've heard ppl talking at my job that work for the water company that many states are actually in trouble with water and ppl dont even know it in some cases so they changed standards and maybe purifying with other chems or not enough so that immediately made me think of that once I heard your guys problems. Even in my area the past 2 mos my water has been dirty at least 7 inconsecutive days
I just told my wife last week our water has become horrible. I try to use tap water when I wake up to down my pills, but even leaving it running for a while it smells and tastes so bad that I was gagging and almost threw up.
Dont wantbto hijack dudes thread but you should not drink unfiltered tap water, I got a brita huge 2 gallon thing with a spout and the water tastes awesome after filtering but their are better ones with better filtration
AnonI had this awhile back but I wasn't on a cycle many things can cause it but I think I used aloe Vera and apple cider vinegar and something else that I don't remember
Google it bro.... you can fix this
But as for the other stuff in your blood work ... listen to the boys
Thanks Monstar, kicked in the Adex so Estro will be in check. Just wondering why the creatinine levels are up on mild stuff, my water intakes been shit so.
AnonDrink the water bro... it's too easy not to and that will help,
Your estro is jacked way up. Your creatinine is also jacked up. Don't mess around with your kidneys. I had to abort my cycle because of my creatinine level which was identical to yours. My PCP also is sending me to a nephrologist to get things checked out because of that level. How is your BP? Are you taking any creatine containing supps? How much water are you drinking?
Creatinine doesn't have anything to do with creatine they just sound similar
Creatinine is actually a waste product produced from creatine and removed through the kidneys, so increased levels can be a serious issue.
Creatine isnt the only component, any type of increased muscle activity can increase creatinine.
Yeah you have creatinine in your blood no matter what even if you take creatine or not creatinine will still be present and even your urine. Say if you drink a shit ton of water you're creatinine levels will be increased. Although I've never read anything just too incorporate creatine with creatinine
Drinking lots of water will actually help to lower creatinine levels in the body. It flushes it out. One of the first recommendations from my doc was to make sure I was well hydrated to try and help lower my creatinine levels.
Oh I thought it was the other way around because years and years ago when I was on probation and I would drink lots of water he would stay my creatinine levels are high but maybe it was the other way around after all was like a decade ago LOL
Gotta be careful not to over hydrate as well, hyponatremia can have severe symptoms.
Lol yep I did that trying to flush my system out when I was a kid an I remember him saying about my creatinine
I did it when I was 16 trying to pass a drug test lol. Eating handfuls of niacin and pounding gallons of water, I was all fucked up. It actually felt almost the same as being severely dehydrated
Damn lol
Yep, and even if you mix creatine in water and let it sit it will eventually degrade into creatinine on its own. Can't remember how long, I've read anywhere from a few hours to a few days depending on how it's stored.
Yes only with monohydrate though. That was actually krealkylyn's selling point because it supposedly doesn't degrade into the toxic creatinine. Supposedly mono only has a very short window ~20 mins to be absorbed after mixing with water. I've always tried to mix my creatine as close to when I'm going to consume as possible.
Agreed good sir
Interesting that's why I like it here because you always learn a little something extra
Right? Fuck college I learn everything I need to here lol
Any recommendations on how to lower the levels
Eat less red meat ;-P
Other than that I'm not too sure, never had an issue with it on my blood work so I've never researched too deeply into it.
I'm pescetarian for almost two years lol
I am seeing a nephrologist tomorrow about this issue. I may have some answers then.
Cool, would be interested in what you learn
Creatinine in the body is produced from creatine so directly consuming creatine can have a direct correlation on your creatinine levels.
100% correct
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't total estrogen always a little bit higher.. would you reccomend getting a sensitive E2 ?
I'm not really taking any supplements, my water intake has been pretty poor lately and but I could straighten that out. I'm not taking any orals with this cycle so I'm not sure why it's elevated the way it is but if I have to stop I will. As far as the usher girls I can hop on Aromasin or arimidex.
If your not having estro related sides @ 200 mg a week I wouldn't take any ai or if I did it would be a very low dose (but likely none) . Certain assays showing estro can be misleading compared to sensitive e2 imo. As far as skin conditions I dunno only time I had something remotely similar was from my laundry detergent. Best of luck bro I'm not sure if you used the sensitive e2 or the regular cause some of your paperwork is cut off but looks like regular to me (guessing)
Here's some info in why you never treat estro based on a regular E2 :
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Which_Estradiol_Test_Best.aspx
Thank you so much brother.