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First order online, my bro had a bad experience so I've always bought locally. Gear looks legit!
AnonOk, i've produced a breakdown for you in order to:
1) Uncerstand what Nolva is/does
2) Understand what an AI is
3) Understand the two types of AI
4) When to use an AI/PCT
5) Knowledge about PCT/SERMs
Nolvadex- increases in the serum levels of LH, FSH, and most importantly, testosterone. And also helps block estrogen. However, it helps your body increase your sperm count because of that. In fact the bad thing about Nolvadex unlike Clomid is that it doesn’t on its own increase sperm count or their motility. However, you still needed it because it does increase your LH and FSH which we need for healthy testis.
Aromatase Inhibitors come in 2 types. Type 1 and Type 2. First Type 1 AI's bind by a process called hydroxylation; this hydroxylation process produces an unbreakable covalent bond between the inhibitor and the enzyme protein. Now the enzyme is permanently blocked even after all of the inhibitor is removed and can only be resumed by new enzyme synthesis. Type 2 Inhibitors on the other hand function all the same in their ability to reduce the binding process of the enzyme and the receptor. Except once the drug is discontinued or the concentration of the drug is sparse enough it is possible for the enzyme to seperate itself from the Inhibitor and eventually will allow renewed competion between the Inhibitor and the Enzyme for the receptor site. Aromasin is a type 1 AI and once it does what it's purpose is we don't need to continue use. Letro and Adex are Type 2 Ai's and the success of those drugs are continigent on the Doses and protocol of which we use them. Once you stop them you expose yourself to an Estrogen rebound. Now having said all of that there are also many other reason to why Aromasin use is beneficial to a Bodybuilder. One is Arimidex/Anastrozole Decreases IGF-1 18% while Aromasin/Exemestane Increases IGF-1 28%. Another is Aromasin is also known to decrease estrogen between 90-95% while boosting Endogenous Testosterone by about 60%, and also help out your free to bound testosterone ratio by lowering levels of Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG), by about 20% (12)…SHBG is that nasty enzyme that binds to testosterone and renders it useless for building muscle.
SERM- Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator- are a class of compounds that act on the estrogen receptor. A characteristic that distinguishes these substances from pure receptor agonists and antagonists is that their action is different in various tissues, thereby granting the possibility to selectively inhibit or stimulate estrogen-like action in various tissues. Clomid and Nolvadex are examples of these.
Mode of Action for SERM
Estrogenic compounds span a s
pectrum of activity ranging from:
1) Full agonists (agonistic in all tissues) such as the natural endogenous hormone estrogen
2) Mixed agonists/antagonistics (agonistic in some tissues while antagonist in others) such as tamoxifen (a SERM)
3) Pure antagonists (antagonistic in all tissues) such as fulvestrant (ICI-182780).
You want either adex/asin on cycle at the following doses:
Aromasin @ 12.mg EOD
Arimidex 0.25mg EOD if nipples get sore than 0.5mg EOD if still sore 0.5mg EOD.
Haha shit I didn't think that I sounded that new, I guess this is a somewhat anonymous board so I can't get much credibility. I'm not an 18 year old kid, I have years of lifting experience, I had a previous understanding of the drugs required, I have ran a previous cycle and have used a PCT before, as well as discuss the use of these drugs with a medical professional and veteran users. Thanks for your help though!
AnonWe all just want to help. But fast is a friend of mine and I have no problem listening to that's. or any other of the vets on here. I'm 28 years old and been lifting since highschool and ill tell you I don't know shit. Don't take it personal. Take it to heart. These guys learned shit the hard way so they could pass the knowlage down to us that they didn't have.
I know it bro, thanks for the advice ;)
AnonYes sir. Good luck and happy lifting. Hope you fully recover from your surgery.
AnonOh and checking will be fine. That way I can just transfer your direct deposits to my Swiss bank account. Bahahahaha!
Do you want checking or savings? I'm running test at 500/12wk, d-bol 50/4wk and the var is for my brother. PCT is arimadex with nolva on hand. Had surgery on my throat a few months back so I'm down to 165 at 6'0'', was 185. Have ran test so this is my first real stack besides PH's, we'll see how it goes. First UGL experience, look good?
Adex is AI.....NOT Pct. You need clomid/nolva stack for pct. Community...forums...pct/cycle logs/read em all. Clomid makes balls awaken from shutdown. Ai blicks estro ON cycle. Nolva keeps nips safe during pct. Adex runs from estro signs til pct starts. Research of cycle will not be good. X is good gear so enjoy
TEST ONLY FIRST CYCLE. DONT USE DBOL UNLESS YOU WANT NEW TITS FROM INEXPERIENCE.
I've been running prohormones for a few years, did a test only about a year ago, this is my first stack. My bro is a vet so I know how to use a PCT, I have everything I could possibly need. I've done my research.
Then your research shoulda included proper AI and proper PCT. But what would i know....the karma and 20yrs of lifting doesnt mean shit right.
On my test cycle I exclusively used Clomid, so thanks for your advice bro.
AnonIf I were you and this was my first real stack I would run
Weeks 1-12 test cyp 500mg split dosage mon/thurs
Weeks 1-4 dbol at 40mg ed
Weeks 14-18 clo/nolva clo @40/40/20/20 and Nolva@ 100/100/50/50
Adex .25 EOD.
That's my opinion. May want to have a vet put thief input on that just to double check me.
I'd never advise dbol to underweight first timer for many reasons. He doesn't even know ai or dosing...dbol is the best titty builder for newbs then he'll be pissed. Second...guy needs BIG clean and some dirty calories to gey his mass back. Yams, brown rice, tatoes, meats veggies. Should be over 200 before blastoff but doubt he waits.
Haha bro I know I sound pretty inexperienced and in a way I am but I know my shit, I have had blood work done recently and have had it done on my last cycle, I have nolva, clomid and my AI on hand, I've been on liquid diet for weeks from this surgery but I know how to bulk. I look good at 180-190 and it's my plan to stay in that range.
AnonThen lets do this. Put the dbol back for a while down the road. Lets run the test only and get solid foods back in you and see how much weight goes back on you. After you get to your previous weight and have stayed there for a minute then start pinning. We need to know stuff like how long you've been out of surgery and what kind of diet. If you put solid foods back in you and hot the gym hard then you should t have a problem putting the weight back on.
I've gained back about 10 pounds (was at 155) in two weeks, I'm thinking I jumped the gun and got too excited but I was at 1000 calories a day and now I'm at 4000 with 200 grams of protein a day. So I'll keep bulking for a month and start cycle then, sound about right? I was out of lifting for a month but I'm back and my lifts are only down by about 5% of max on most.
AnonI do agree with that. But you know just as well as I do a lot of these guys will just do whatever they want even after advice is given. I also agree that people can get great results with test only cycles for years if done correctly.
True true.....this guy knows his stuff fully too. He's all researched and knows his stuff. Im done here
AnonHow do you plan on running this cycle? You got pct and and AI on hand? Stats? History? Credit card? Social security number? Bank account info?
Do you want checking or savings? I'm running test at 500/12wk, d-bol 50/4wk and the var is for my brother. PCT is arimadex with nolva on hand. Had surgery on my throat a few months back so I'm down to 165 at 6'0'', was 185. Have ran test so this is my first real stack besides PH's, we'll see how it goes. First UGL experience, look good?