posted Tue, 12/18/2012 - 11:00
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Anabolic Supreme Fake Organon Deca
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Recieved this from anabolic supreme. 1/3 of the vials I recieved are fakes and horribly packaged... 5 ampules broke due to bad packaging. Notice on pic 3 the crimping of the cap is all messy, and at a 90 degree angle which indicate signs that they were not crimped by the same tool and therefore done at different facilities. the yellow tab is far bigger than usual and overlaps the cap, etc.. I could go on and on but the bottom line is that 1/3 of the vials i recieved are clearly fakes.
Theres a picture of the packaging as well.
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Wow. Can that packaging be anymore obvious? What happened to discrete? And that's good he's replacing it like a true businessman because these CLEARLY are fake Deca vials.
After speaking with K the owner, he agrees that they are fakes and he will be taking care of me. Replacing my product and making it right. Good guy here
Whatever happened here? Did you get this stuff replaced?
Yeah he replaced the deca with scirroxx brand and and sent me 50 extra halo tabs. He did right by taking it off the website as well and discontinueing sale of it. I was still dispointed in the packaging again but I guess thats their standard. They always make it through customs though...
Thanks. Good to know things got fixed.
Just added another picture of the quality control numbers on the box and on the vial. You can clearly see that they are different. Each box has a different QC number and none match any of the vials. If you look at the vials they are 2 diffent types. So again why would a company completely change glasswear, crimping tools, amount of liquid, font, labels etc.. in the middle of production and give all 30 vials the same QC number? thats not how big companies operate. There are processes and guidelines in place. Why would a company produce products that dont meet the same standards throughout the entire process? Answer is they dont.
the packing is bright 0.o
hopefully the test amps are good!
Test amps are definately good, im 2 weeks in and feel great!
I sure hope so! I will for sure be back to post results of the gear.
The more and more I analyze these the more problems I find with them. If you look at the quality control number underneath the the N.V. Oraganon you see 24119/310. The first 5 digits correspond to the quality control number. The second set of digits corresponds to a id number used to identify the type of substance, in this case 310 which is nandrolone decanoate. I recieved 29 vials all with the exact same quality control number. Each quality control number is specialfically assigned to one package with the thought that they could identify and avoid errors in the packaging process. And as we know there is only 5 vials in a package. Are you going to tell me that the company decided to use the exact same quality control number for 6 different boxes and in the middle of production swap labels, caps, sealing equipment, ect...? Thats highly unlikely...
This would in fact mean that they are all fake.
I thank you for offering to reship the broken ampules, and the apologies for the packaging. Things happen and I understand that.
The batches are in fact the exact same on every single vial. Even the quality control number is the same. I can post pics of this as well and I will. But I think that you are thinking that I am trying to say that your Scirroxx oils are fake and I'm not saying that. I did not order Scirroxx oils. I ordered only deca 2ml vials and test ampules. My first order I ordered some scirroxx orals. Those are in fact legit because I've used them. The items in question are the Yellow Top Organon Deca that your selling, not your sciroxx products....
To address the yellow top Deca:
Any one can clearly see that the second vial that I am refering to was not produced in a lab with any kind of industry standards in place. Look at the crimping on the vials in the picture on the far right, one is clean and professionally done and the other is a half ass job done by someone with hand crimpers. Look at the labels. The font size and boldness is not the same, and one label is visibly thicker on the other. The small "g" in N.V. Organon on the label is slighty different. The placement of the lettering on the label is different. The two vials have different amounts of oil in them. The oils are slightly different in color. Oraganon uses clear oil and the conterfeit has a yellowish tint. The color of the septums are different and have seperate lengths. The yellow cap is larger and one is a different shade of yellow. I mean do I even need to keep pointing out whats wrong here? Ive pointed out several different issues with these as well as provided a link which specifically shows the exact vial I was sent and is in the pic that I have posted above to be a known fake. I think its clear that that is nearly irrefutable evidence that these are in fact fakes.
Another thing to point out is that the boxes are missing the pharmacy stickers. You said yourself ,as well as your partner, that these come from a pharmacy in Piraeus, Greece. So where are the pharmacy stickers? Everyone knows that these greek stickers contain a watermark that conterfiets cannot duplicate. Unfortunately, since those sticker have been removed I cannot verify that any of these are real. The boxes dont have the quality control sticker either so I cannot verify that as well.
Now let me clarify that I am saying that 9 of the 29(I ordered 30) you sent me appear to be fake and do not match the quality, colors, amount of liquid, fonts, etc.. of the other 20, which look to be done by the real lab.
I'll answer you to the point:
If you want we'll take your comlaint seriously, please provide us some real evidence that stick with your arguments.
I given you my evidence and yet again you want to try and say they are fake. You don't have to work at organon to know how quality controls work.If you spent any kind of time in a manufacturing line you would know how they work, its not rocket science. Educated yourself in the matter because obviously you know nothing about quality given the evidence I have provided of your packaging method, maybe if you had a little quality control in place at you operation you'd have avoided issues such as this. I would like to hear you explain why a company would put the same quality control number on 6 different boxes? And these boxes don't even have the quality control number on them! There's so many holes in your statement its funny. I don't care if you don't want to believe facts. That's your problem. But everyone can clearly see these are not the same vials and is a known fake. Its funny how you ignore all of the defects I have pointed out and expect people to believe you arent selling fakes. Your the one who has to prove that they are legit because its YOUR rep on the line, not mine. If my opinions are so wrong then give some evidence of this, oh wait you cant cause I given you several opportunities to do so and I keep getting the same response from all of you that doesnt explain ANYTHING!
I don't see one other person on here saying they are real except you. I DID contact you prior to posting on eroids. And I did not post this to try and get issues resolved. I posted it so other can see your work quality and that you sell fakes. You dont even know the details of where your deca is comming from but yet you want to try and say that it's no doubt real. if its real then prove it. cmon prove me wrong please because im waiting...
Believe me if I could get lab test done I most certainly would! But as we all know that ain't going to happen here in the US.
I don't want to do business with you or people like you. That is why I chose not to be YOUR customer any longer and hopefully no one else will either. You say your service is so great, prove it! where are all of your reviews? I count a total of 7 reviews since you have been on eroids, thats some great record you got lol. Your dishonest and you still neglect to resolve the issue and it's very clear to everyone you have no intention of doing so.
You want more reviews? check at steroid-forums.com (an hint: all of them positives)
Anyway it's pointless argument, you think all of the customers of us have the time to write reivew - you're wrong.
People have some life instead of be the organon representative, they do business with us and happy. you're the only one who have some trouble with us. maybe it say something on you...
And regarding your "emails" , yesterday Karl check the email and saw himself you didn't contact us prior this issue. so please don't bulshit here...
The only one bullshitting is you! You blow off the argument cause you know you can't prove any of it wrong. But whatever it's cool we all see it. I said I sent 1 email, not "emails". Unfortunately I used your websites contact method so I dont have proof of sending it, only you do. And we all know your not going to blow your cover by saying I did in fact send it.
Bottom line I've warned others of a possible fake. I've stated my arguments backed them up with knowledge and facts and now I'm done here.
Good luck with your business.
This is K ....
I'm responsible on Sciroxx products.
First - I apologize for the lazy packaging, I'll surely discuss it with the main shipepr there, there is no excuse for this and we'll reship the broken items with apologies.
Sciroxx has 2 main labs and we've just opened a 3rd one. We use various shipping location from safety issues. Your vials if from different batches could be manufactured indeed in separate labs, I would like to understand why and how it bothers u ?! you're more then welcome to lab test the vials for purity and potency and report here or to me, I'm actually eager to get your honest feedback.
Regarding the yellow tops - you refer to a known and stupid fake that was discussed long ago which contains test prop. These Decas were purchased directly from a big pharmacy in Piraeus who get it directly from a local hospital and appear inside original packaging - i advice you to conduct a proper lab test before making such statements. It's very hard to get these real Deca these days for a descent price as they were removed from the shelves in the pharmacies so we're about to discontinue to offer them.
Again - I would like to wait for your honest feedback after the usage of the products ;)
I see why they broke packaging sucks
Ive done my part by exposing you to this community. The facts are all laid out for everyone to see, let them be the judge!
We reply in your review and we'll do that here again.
1st of all - we have many customers who use this deca and happy.
2nd - we get this deca D-I-R-E-C-T-L-Y from a legit pharmacy in Greece, it's original and not faked like you think. have you really tried that before put this message it faked? I think the answer will be big NO.
You can think whatever you want, we know for sure it's original deca produced by Organon. the reviews said all. you're the only person who have complaints for 2 orders. they are not packed discrete - but for some reason you didn't receive seizure letter? how is that?
The other reviews - people mention it discrete. so maybe you think things need to be done by your way. sorry - it won't. we'll keep providing great service to our customers, if we have any problem - we solved it quickly. all of our customers happy with the T/A and product quality. for some reason it's only you who have problem with us for 2 orders.
You forget to mention we sent you 2 extra PHARMA GRADE HCG, so you decide to rate us with bad review ant vote. go on - maybe you'll find another source who'll provide you "real yellow top deca".
mr127superdeedamn homie if you really got ripped post this shit everywhere! lets make it impossible for scammers to stay in business for the long haul!
OH I am! Go look at my review of him. He cant even address the issues properly! Stay away from Anabolic Supreme!
Are you real?
You never contact us before you post this thread, you immediately post in eroids without contact us by email/pm and etc'. you didn't even give us any chance to "solve" the issue.
And of course you decide to ignore our replies and still abase us.
Its called exposing you, not abusing you!
Post this right to their supplier intro wall as well.
I thought Oss discontinued Yellow Tops over 5 years ago. I could be wrong, though.
I had heard they still made them out of holland. The box that came with the order seems to be legit judging by the date on the boxes and others pics ive seen.
No1Have you used them or are you saying their fake because they look fake?
MilKmAnwell if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck....it's probably a duck...
I havent used them. But they are no doubt fakes. here is what i used to identify the fakes. http://www.juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/content/greek-deca-durabolin-yellowtop
breakingfaceI think he's primarily referring to the fact that they are knock offs. Whether or not there is actually aas in them is another story.
A knock off sweater may still keep you warm, but it aint what you paid for!