+ 4 ALT+AST and DHB
Had my CMP blood work done yesterday and wanted to post my liver levels. In April it was pretty high because I was on 50mg anadrol ED and sometimes 75-100mg if I wanted a little extra kick. Did that for about 3 or 4 weeks. Right before I stopped anadrol I threw in DHB and am about 7-8 weeks in now. I started with 350mg a week then 525mg and now up to around 700mg a week. I wanted to post it because I've read and heard a lot that DHB is harmful to the liver and wanted to show 7-8 weeks in and my numbers aren't so bad. My liver isn't the best either so I'm pretty amazed myself it dropped that much. My levels now are high but just outside of range which I can deal with while running. Better than April's bloods lol. I like it too I'm not having crazy sides, getting a lot more vascular and strength is going up. I'm not vouching for DHB and that it's not harmful on the liver or anything else in the body. I just wanted to add my two cents of labs to the DHB debate of if it's really harsh on the liver or not. Thanks.
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So I've been on sus 250 and anavar and had ast of 118 and alt of 212. Just a data point to add to the thread. I've been running the anavar for about 5 weeks.
How did it effect your E2?
Haven't had it checked yet. I'm gonna in a few weeks or so get that and test levels done.
Never read nor heard dhb was harsh on liver. Equipoise is though.
Between other forums and YouTube i come across of how it's so bad and not worth it. It's gonna cause severe liver damage, it's worst than orals and all that beware of DHB shit. I did this just to see how my levels have been since April and was surprised to see it is actually dropped quite a bit. I posted this here because of what I've read and if someone is in the fence about trying it then they can have some proof that it isn't crazy liver toxic and be so scared of it. I know it's only one persons blood work but just wanted to post my thoughts about it.
It’s been the buzz lately in the YouTube bodybuilding space. When you mention dhb to these pros/online guys with a podcast, they all basically say the same thing, they wouldn’t touch the stuff. Another coach said his guy running dhb had ast and alt over 1000.
Also isn’t equipoise broken down into dhb anyways? So if equipoise is liver toxic wouldn’t that prove dhb is?
I agree. I've certainly heard it said by the YouTube coaches/influencers and say bc of that study and some anecdotal people, they won't run it. But I've seen plenty of anecdotal labs/stories disproving that. And there's alot of guys on the forums that speak highly of dhb.
My liver markers were in the 30s on 425mg per week. The liver thing dates back to MPMD pontificating on the subject drawing his conclusions from a single study done on rats and their liver weights increasing slightly from being dosed with dhb. Now it seems to be spreading again.
I think I’m the video Steve made in it, he says yes the study looks bad but it’s only because we haven’t done that study with other steroids that would probably look similar. Or something like that lol. I consume so much useless info my brains getting full lol
Very good data to have for your cycles man. +1
Do you have the results for your kidney markers too mate that you could put up?
Yeah just posted bud. The bun/creatinine "see note" say that it's within the normal levels. I was thinking it was gonna say something else.
Holy Crap - You were high before buddy!! Surprised ADrol by itself did that to you, you sure you weren't running more??!
This kind of De-bunks all that Bull crap about Anadrol being safe for the liver in high doses even when given to AID's patients in studies.
My highest was 210 many years back on a boatload of Tren ace and DBol. Did you not have crippling stomach ache and feel sick when training?
I was running Test P around 75 ED and NPP the same and 50mg anadrol and once in awhile I did throw in a couple dbol and a halo (prob did 60mg total in those weeks) but not enough that I would think it would affect the test that much. Then when I was dropping it I started the DHB but that blood work was before I started that. I was surprised when they came back that high myself honestly.
Halo will jack those numbers