Just now creating an account to warn you…but I have been a user of his products for years and it’s always been great quality. I’ve pinned this 4x, my buddy has twice. DO NOT PIN THIS. It has caused a huge amount of swelling, bruising, and is just overall a horrible experience and makes you feel sick. Have tried different methods and areas to pin with all the same result. I have emailed 87 to see if we can make this right. I will post pictures to verify what diesel1975 is saying later when I get home.
I find it a little strange that it always seems to be a new account with low Karma trying to bring down this source. You never see a guy with 50 or more Karma points posting stuff like this. This bottle looks like the guy boiled it for an hour to oxidize it and post this pic. SMH
Possibly or this could be from a veteran who actually ordered this from 87. Let's all keep an open mind. This is happening with a few other srcs as well. Looks like straight oil...motor oil!
Yup, my account is four months old, but been a fan of Eroids for about nine years now. I quit all social media about five months ago, and found myself bored to death, LOL, so I finally decided to establish an account. Yeah, I’m definitely an 87 fan. Best gear I’ve run since Big D got busted. Guess that’s why I think this black Tren is bullshit.
Anyway, I guess I deserved my balls busted for fanboying. Ugh!
1) this is not a new account. I have been on here for years now & this existing account is almost 2 years old, and would be more like 5 years old, but about two years ago, The site was fucked up and was not recognizing passwords. And I had to create a new one.
2) 87 HIMSELF, has already admitted that the entire recent batch is dark like this. I have a total of 4 bottles off of this batch. They all are this color or close to it.
3) I am constantly, and I do mean constantly!… bragging and propping up this source!! This post was not a bash session. It was simply to ask the other fellas on here, if they had ever used Tren this dark before?? As I was trying to decide if I actually wanted to inject it or not. Like I posted before, I have been in this rodeo for over 23 years now… and I have personally never seen Tren Ace or Enth this extreme dark before. And that’s well into the hundreds of bottles worth over the decades. So, this was just an information and opinion gathering post. Not a bitch session or bash a source session.
4) I’m an extremely loyal customer to 87…more orders than I could ever begin to want to count. And I can assure you, when I order from 87, it’s not just piddly ass $200 to $300 orders. He’s always treated me right. And he did on this as well. And that’s why I am indeed a super loyal customer of his & always will be.
5) I find it hilarious that a 4 month old account is calling my account new, LOL!
Nah, but my training brother has the other 2 bottles…he’s going to pin it Friday. He just finished. of his older bottle. Which was from 87 & he loved it.
Note: it does indeed look much lighter once pulled into a syringe. We did the syringe test today.
Hey brother, question, would you consider changing your handle to dieselblack ? There are several members with the name diesel and I think this is a good way to differentiate the members especially considering this black Tren incident.
Is it just me, or does that label look fishy to anyone else. I just got a few bottles from 87 and the labels don’t even look like that. That label actually looks like it was peeled off and reset incorrectly. It’s a little too high on the bottle. Every bottle I have has a perfect label with a whole different design to it. I would post pictures of my bottles, but I don’t know how to add them to this post
I will buy a vial if it. I’ll swab a few drops with the boot race and see what’s in it. This thing can find thousands of contaminants. It’s used for food processes before we can run product. @eighty7 you have any left? I’ll buy one and swab it.
I have and want impressed. I get off better with deca. Anadrol doesn’t work for me either. The tren could have been my diet. It’s a carb hig they say and I wasn’t getting enough probably
Yeah I've heard others say the same about tren and not being impressed. Yea carbs probably not high enough. And Anadrol gave me the worst headache ever, didn't last a week. Blood pressure was normal. Never again.
Msds color for tren raw is hazy yellow. Unless its in gso im not using dark tren. Overheated in something like mct damaged the hormone. Anyone can find msds for all raws.
Other batches from the same raws were brewed and weren't as dark. The only difference was the fractionalized MCT oil. They were both brewed the same way we have always done it.
Some people would swear by darker colored tren. Would be the only tren they would use. Said it was more potent and would complain if the the tren was light colored. How things have changed
from my understanding when you oxidize something you damage the molecular structure of it, like cloudy GH, means the peptide bonds have been broken but I must admit this is a bit out of my wheelhouse
My first question would be is it oxidized/overcooked or just the color of the raws? I have seen tren from red, dark like this (even darker) to almost clear. I think once this is in the barrel it will look a lot lighter color. You never used to see the light colored tren you see nowadays, it was always like this and if it wasn't this color there was rumor that some of the brewers would overcook it to make it darker because light colored tren was considered inferior. The darker the better seemed to be the consensus. As long as it is clear and not cloudy (nothing cloudy should ever be used) it should be safe. I would probably just do a test pin of half ml or so. Pip is what I would be most worried about. There should be no reason to overcook it if that is the case though, does that reduce potency, I don't know. I don't use alot of tren but I did use some tren ace that was really dark, probably overcooked, and it worked like tren always does.
If I had test or primo or mast or anything but tren this color, no way I would pin it. But I am not alarmed seeing tren this color.
I remember when darker was better as well, I even remember some labs putting red and orange dye in their gear to make it super colorful, so orange and dark it was almost green.
I believe the trend for lighter tren also came with the preference of MCT as a carrier oil, I remember when many were CSO or thick ass GSO, both darker carrier oils which would produce darker tren, now I am no cook, but the raws I have seen are a dark orangish, hard to think that being put into clear MCT would produce Black, thats a big color change
IDK for a $40 bottle of tren I would not be risking the possible infection or now underdosed tren when it looks like it was smuggled into prison in someones asshole
MCT typically seems to result in a lot of the clearer vials we see now from test to tren. You never used to see clear test either. It always seemed to have a yellowish tint. Pharma gear was the only stuff that seemed to be clear, UGL always had some tint to it. Now you see test and other compounds as clear as water all over the place, a telltale sign of MCT.
Mak you are right it does look lighter in the barrel, 87 posted a pic. As far as overcooking affecting potency, in my opinion, depending on the degree of overcooking yes, how could it not affect potency. At some point I would think these hormones will start to degrade like other substances or chemicals exposed to certain temps. Hope I'm wrong. Any oxidation is never good, that's why anti-oxidants in nature exist and are integral.
Just now creating an account to warn you…but I have been a user of his products for years and it’s always been great quality. I’ve pinned this 4x, my buddy has twice. DO NOT PIN THIS. It has caused a huge amount of swelling, bruising, and is just overall a horrible experience and makes you feel sick. Have tried different methods and areas to pin with all the same result. I have emailed 87 to see if we can make this right. I will post pictures to verify what diesel1975 is saying later when I get home.
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I find it a little strange that it always seems to be a new account with low Karma trying to bring down this source. You never see a guy with 50 or more Karma points posting stuff like this. This bottle looks like the guy boiled it for an hour to oxidize it and post this pic. SMH
Possibly or this could be from a veteran who actually ordered this from 87. Let's all keep an open mind. This is happening with a few other srcs as well. Looks like straight oil...motor oil!
coming from someone who has been here for less than 4 months LOL
does 87 like when you play with his balls or his he a finger in the ass kinda guy?
Yup, my account is four months old, but been a fan of Eroids for about nine years now. I quit all social media about five months ago, and found myself bored to death, LOL, so I finally decided to establish an account. Yeah, I’m definitely an 87 fan. Best gear I’ve run since Big D got busted. Guess that’s why I think this black Tren is bullshit.
Anyway, I guess I deserved my balls busted for fanboying. Ugh!
Lol fair enough mate
Funny you mention, no excuses is what big D should’ve been.
He was tough to deal with
Yeah, Big D was definitely an angry dude, but his gear was awesome, and fast shipping.
RustyhookerRubber knife gang
Yes I do like that and no I keep my fingers clean.
1) this is not a new account. I have been on here for years now & this existing account is almost 2 years old, and would be more like 5 years old, but about two years ago, The site was fucked up and was not recognizing passwords. And I had to create a new one.
2) 87 HIMSELF, has already admitted that the entire recent batch is dark like this. I have a total of 4 bottles off of this batch. They all are this color or close to it.
3) I am constantly, and I do mean constantly!… bragging and propping up this source!! This post was not a bash session. It was simply to ask the other fellas on here, if they had ever used Tren this dark before?? As I was trying to decide if I actually wanted to inject it or not. Like I posted before, I have been in this rodeo for over 23 years now… and I have personally never seen Tren Ace or Enth this extreme dark before. And that’s well into the hundreds of bottles worth over the decades. So, this was just an information and opinion gathering post. Not a bitch session or bash a source session.
4) I’m an extremely loyal customer to 87…more orders than I could ever begin to want to count. And I can assure you, when I order from 87, it’s not just piddly ass $200 to $300 orders. He’s always treated me right. And he did on this as well. And that’s why I am indeed a super loyal customer of his & always will be.
5) I find it hilarious that a 4 month old account is calling my account new, LOL!
Ok, my bad! Sorry, Bro!
Did you pin it?
Nah, but my training brother has the other 2 bottles…he’s going to pin it Friday. He just finished. of his older bottle. Which was from 87 & he loved it.
Note: it does indeed look much lighter once pulled into a syringe. We did the syringe test today.
Whatever you decide to do, we’re here for moral support.
Hey brother, question, would you consider changing your handle to dieselblack ? There are several members with the name diesel and I think this is a good way to differentiate the members especially considering this black Tren incident.
Black Diesel has a ring to it
Cool porn name too....Unc, loan me a couple of your midgets & we’ll make a film.
Is it just me, or does that label look fishy to anyone else. I just got a few bottles from 87 and the labels don’t even look like that. That label actually looks like it was peeled off and reset incorrectly. It’s a little too high on the bottle. Every bottle I have has a perfect label with a whole different design to it. I would post pictures of my bottles, but I don’t know how to add them to this post
The label looks like its drenched in oil
I’m thinking this is that guy again.
Black Tren matters !!
I will buy a vial if it. I’ll swab a few drops with the boot race and see what’s in it. This thing can find thousands of contaminants. It’s used for food processes before we can run product.
@eighty7 you have any left? I’ll buy one and swab it.
That’s supposed to say bio trace not boot race lol. Auto correct
That tren is just oxidized alot lol but guess it wouldn't hurt trying to find contaminants. Have you ever used Tren?
I have and want impressed. I get off better with deca. Anadrol doesn’t work for me either. The tren could have been my diet. It’s a carb hig they say and I wasn’t getting enough probably
Yeah I've heard others say the same about tren and not being impressed. Yea carbs probably not high enough. And Anadrol gave me the worst headache ever, didn't last a week. Blood pressure was normal. Never again.
If it comes back fine people will just say I sent a different bottle. Work something out with him.
Just trying to help you both.
RustyhookerMsds color for tren raw is hazy yellow. Unless its in gso im not using dark tren. Overheated in something like mct damaged the hormone. Anyone can find msds for all raws.
Other batches from the same raws were brewed and weren't as dark. The only difference was the fractionalized MCT oil. They were both brewed the same way we have always done it.
RustyhookerOne of the quirks on that batch then. Trens so strong it will be apparrnt quickly as he runs it
Tren this dark has been praised by other people here the only difference is it had a red tint to it and this one doesn't.
RealizeRealLiesEven the label looks cooked, odd
https://www.eroids.com/pics/no-excuses-looking-good.
Night and day compared to the ace I grabbed awhile back. Raws? Overcooked?
Some people would swear by darker colored tren. Would be the only tren they would use. Said it was more potent and would complain if the the tren was light colored. How things have changed
Darker the berry the sweeter the juice lol
Serious question Mak: Would you pin this?
from my understanding when you oxidize something you damage the molecular structure of it, like cloudy GH, means the peptide bonds have been broken but I must admit this is a bit out of my wheelhouse
Ive pinned some crazy shit— But nope id sit this one out
I miss ya man! I miss ya! Please lets just work something out. I'll quit mentioning my ole lady jokes!
Its like that break up noone can get over Shouldnt of happend Power in numbers
I will buy the first round
Ok deal! As long as you buy that first round for me and not you know who?
My first question would be is it oxidized/overcooked or just the color of the raws? I have seen tren from red, dark like this (even darker) to almost clear. I think once this is in the barrel it will look a lot lighter color. You never used to see the light colored tren you see nowadays, it was always like this and if it wasn't this color there was rumor that some of the brewers would overcook it to make it darker because light colored tren was considered inferior. The darker the better seemed to be the consensus. As long as it is clear and not cloudy (nothing cloudy should ever be used) it should be safe. I would probably just do a test pin of half ml or so. Pip is what I would be most worried about. There should be no reason to overcook it if that is the case though, does that reduce potency, I don't know. I don't use alot of tren but I did use some tren ace that was really dark, probably overcooked, and it worked like tren always does.
If I had test or primo or mast or anything but tren this color, no way I would pin it. But I am not alarmed seeing tren this color.
I remember when darker was better as well, I even remember some labs putting red and orange dye in their gear to make it super colorful, so orange and dark it was almost green.
I believe the trend for lighter tren also came with the preference of MCT as a carrier oil, I remember when many were CSO or thick ass GSO, both darker carrier oils which would produce darker tren, now I am no cook, but the raws I have seen are a dark orangish, hard to think that being put into clear MCT would produce Black, thats a big color change
IDK for a $40 bottle of tren I would not be risking the possible infection or now underdosed tren when it looks like it was smuggled into prison in someones asshole
MCT typically seems to result in a lot of the clearer vials we see now from test to tren. You never used to see clear test either. It always seemed to have a yellowish tint. Pharma gear was the only stuff that seemed to be clear, UGL always had some tint to it. Now you see test and other compounds as clear as water all over the place, a telltale sign of MCT.
Mak you are right it does look lighter in the barrel, 87 posted a pic. As far as overcooking affecting potency, in my opinion, depending on the degree of overcooking yes, how could it not affect potency. At some point I would think these hormones will start to degrade like other substances or chemicals exposed to certain temps. Hope I'm wrong. Any oxidation is never good, that's why anti-oxidants in nature exist and are integral.
I cannot believe people are saying to pin this LOL I agree something has changed in that bottle and it is not for the better
Why? We've already used it and so have other customers. It wasn't any different than the light colored Tren.