posted Tue, 06/25/2013 - 06:07
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+ 4 All natty gettin ready to start my 1st cycle test e var
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Gettin ready to run my 1st cycle looking to put on a little size and get cut up. Open to pointers and criticism.
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AnonHey Dwill thought this might interest you brother...
This was a reply by cdaddy7 about 9 months ago to a question I had regarding clomid and nolva. You might want to run nolva for pct also as below will explain the advantages of the two. There is some other good feedback on the topic titled Clomid and Nolva question...
In short...Clomid and Nolva actions
Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testes make more testosterone....That right there is the difference. Doing this helps your testes come alive....Nolvadex stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Nolvadex helps with LH(needed for natural testosterone) and FSH(helps produce sperm) in the pituitary but doesn't block estrogen from the pituitary--it blocks estrogen in your chest with the breast tissue
AnonLike a few have said bro. 1st cycle run some test for about 12 weeks and definitely try to dial in your diet. The test will more than likely make you hungry so it's important to try and get your body fat down a little before cycle. Also someone else mentioned lower body fat will help to minimize the sides. Good foundation though bro. Keep us posted.
Thanks for the input bro I'm guna keep the carbs low and hit cardio hard for the next 2 weeks I have aromasin and tomoxafin on deck for sides and was my plan on the test 500 a week for 12 weeks and throw in var at the end but by popular demand I'm guna drop the var and I have clomid and aromasin for my pct. Guna keep the carbs in check while on cycle but murder the protein. I just can't wait more than 2 weeks I got those vials just sittin there teasing me. I really appreciate everybody's input though got a lot of useful info from this post really glad I did it.
Hide them somewhere and don't think about them LOL That's what I do.. Remember waiting an extra week or two won't compare to the better results you'll get the leaner you start
1jakd_hipyGreat starting point for starting, I wish everyone here would wait til they got to this point. Test only and +1
Good size ! Run Test only to drop body fat. +1 for the post !! Keep us updated !!
Nice solid build. I look forward to seeing more pics of you (no homo) before and after pct whichever route you go with the compounds.
appreciate it bud I'll def post pics throughout my cycle.
Looking good brother! Very nice structural foundation for a first cycle! Cut body fat somewhat and you'll be good to go. Also, common protocol for a first cycle is Test only to see how your body reacts. A second compound, in my opinion and in the opinion of many, should not be added until the third cycle. Test is best.
Thanks man and yea I've also read that in my research. I was just going to put in var at 50mg a day at the tail of my cycle to try to help achieve that cut up look. i read that it was relatively mild as far as sides and i was thinking by week 8 i'd have a good feel for the test and know whether or not to add the var.
Good Base bro! Youll burn that fat off on cycle if your diet is dialed in. Good luck. Keep an AI on hand and a eye on BP which you should do no matter what your body fat. Your gonna be a Beast!
Thanks man! I got way more aromasin than i should need so i should be g2g on the AI
No1looks to be about 15-16% body fat
you can always try some clenbuterol if you want to burn fat. find a peptide source and check out the research liquids. 2 weeks on 2weeks off. start at 20mcg and go up from there until you get sides but never more than 120mcg. im running it with var right now and it is shrinking my waste without me loosing any muscle.
I think clen is a little more advanced for a cycle virgin.. I usually lean more towards caffeine tabs and aspirin for new guys testing the waters of steroids and peptides
lower your BF first bro.
Been cutting measured around 12. What percentage you recommend?
Your BF% is way higher than 12.
That doesn't look like 12% tbh.. you def have a good foundation to start with.. The main reason you wanna cut down is it will cut back a lot of sides the lower your body fat... Less prone to gyno or BP issues.
A quick 2-4 week ketosis diet will melt the fat pretty quick or just drop carbs earlier in your day will do it
Thanks for for the info man, and yea i was going by one of those hand held things the last time i measured, i heard they can be pretty inaccurate. You say to drop carbs earlier in the day I don't get to work out until almost 6 pm and i gotta have a good amount of carbs or im dead after working 10 hours you think i should just cut back or what
Any mass you lose will come straight back and more when you jump on your cycle from muscle memory and the juice.
Take your carbs in an hour before the workout and some after.. after that dropem the rest of the day.. I also like to use caffeine tabs and aspirin while cutting just to help a little
Go buy some ketone strips in the diabetic section of a drug store.. They will tell you when you body is in a state of ketosis
Alright will do appreciate the info man
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i think youll be fine. you have a great base. sure everyone says you need low body fat to run var but i think you will get great results.
Thanks man. I'm thinkin the same thing