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6 months progress pic using Kits Supreme, Test E, NPP, (Primo from another source) and Proviron.

Weeks 1-24: Test E @ 500mg
Weeks 4-24: Proviron 50mg split 2x daily
Weeks 8-24: NPP @ 400mg
Weeks 8-24: Primo @ 450mg
Weeks 1-24: GH Supreme 4iu titrating up gradually to 8ius

No acne which is surprising with two DHT compounds.
Light shedding of hair - combating with minidoxal, and finasteride.
No issues with Libido.
Sleep has been great.
Strength has been gradual but i don’t lift much outside of the 10-20 rep range. Endurance has been excellent, no cardiovascular fatigue.
Mid section fat loss has been significant.
Had AI on hand but used sparingly. Primo and Proviron kept me in a good state with little to no aromatization symptoms I’ve delta with before.

Just dropped NPP, added 50mg of Anavar a day, pushed the primo up to 600 mg and dropped the test to 400mg this week hoping to lose some of this “water weight” and dry out at this dose over the next month.

As you can see, I’m not much of a “hyper responder”. Really just wanted to make some lasting lean gains before going shred mode and am happy with the results thus far.

Stats: 30
210lbs.
5’10
Training split: 2 days on 1 day off.
150C/350P/100F

Will update with new progress report.

First pic is first week back in the gym after torn pec, right is last week - up 20+ lbs of solid lean muscle over the last 6 months. Slow and steady!

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Fearlessgainer's picture

Nice work

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bigred250's picture

I’m about to give npp a shot for the first time. How does that stuff make you feel? I’ve heard it can make ppl lazy or depressed. Wondering how your mental state has been on it?

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patcorr-2001's picture

From the research I've done , the only reason people feel "less sides" on NPP compared to deca is because it's a shit ester , and your getting less of the drug compared to decanoate.

Not sure if anyone here watches the anabolic round table with vigorous steve, Kurt havens and doctor Dean st mart but the phenylpropionate ester was discussed there woth research proving that similar to cypionate the doses don't seem to build off of one another , and blood levels don't seem to climb very high when using supraphysiological doses.

I just stick to decanoate , tried and true. Some claim it has "more sides " but it's the same drug under a different ester so I don't buy into it. I trust the research proving decanoate is just better overall and tbh I feel great on it

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Eagles 2013's picture

I’ve heard a lot of people report pretty nasty side effects from both Nandrolone esters, but for me personally- the stuff makes me feel like Superman. I swear it puts me in a better mood than my baseline just because I have a ton of extra energy, endurance and confidence. I make great size and strength gains on it and don’t have much of an issue with bloat. I have experienced the full array of 19-Nor sides from tren, but NPP & and Deca have always been great to me. Even at high doses like 1 gram/week Deca.

OP- great progress! Coming back from a long time off after the serious injury can be extremely mentally challenging. You have done an excellent job bouncing back, looking forward and not worrying about the past. Keep doing what you’re doing, brother! +1 from me

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Jmichael2044's picture

I’ve done long deca cycles of 16+ weeks, comparatively I like the look of NPP better.
In terms of feel the npp gave me some anxiety around weeks 6-8 but after donating blood i was fine.
No lethargy to report, but I think the Proviron has helped with that and my over all mood immensely.

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Jameshobbis's picture

I love npp off season deca on the other hand makes me an emotional wreck

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Jmichael2044's picture

I hear you man I struggled with some bad social anxiety around week 6-8. Donated blood and felt 10x better. This is my first time running Proviron with it and I wanna say it’s been the difference maker in terms of mental stability

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Imagedynamiks's picture

Yessir, that’s one gnarly gainz train! Very nice!!

Did you go up a shirt size or two, too?

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Jmichael2044's picture

Thank you brotha! yeah man my girl had to basically throw my whole wardrobe out haha. Im in the heat so live in tanks and bball shorts so no losses but I was a comfortable large to a fitted XL or XXL if i want some air flow lol pants are a nightmare too

The funny one is I’m pretty sure my foot’s a 1/2 size bigger now, and I’ve had to add length to my watches straps but I’ve been on the growth a high dose on an off for years so what can you do lol

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