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+ 9 400 mg/week of Test Cyp from MuscleTekLabs.com

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Been running Test Cyp for 4 weeks now. 400 mg/week in divided doses (200 mg each on Tues/Fri). Bloods were taken Friday morning, before my Friday pin. Also taking a small dose of Aromasin which I think I need to increase a bit.

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QUADFATHER1's picture

OK so one single blood test with results above 1100 after only four weeks with a dose of 400 mgs a week means my gear is half under dosed or bunk as some on hear are saying? I may be biased and have only 20 plus years experience but there are many variable involved to say all of this after just one test. I run all of my own gear so no one cares more than me. I go through a new batch of test every week so who knows one batch could have been a bit underdosed it can happen of course. But to say its bunk or to find another source seems a bit pre mature. I will get bloods done myself asap and post them as well. If anyone ever has any problems with my gear they can pm me anytime and of course I will work with them. This poster himself Jagger told me he is fine with the gear and his number are right where he wants them and he feels great. But for anyone to call this gear bunk is likely full of shit and or does not know what he is talking about.

Bigguy07's picture

Surprising from quad, I ran his gear and loved it. Have you contacted him?

elpariente's picture

Wow senor that test is maybe half or less what it suppose to be, 400 mg put me easily in 2500+ , thanks for sharing, sorry for the bunk gear tho

CBBurrr's picture

+1 for bloods. Good luck on finding your next source, I bet you do better next time around. In the mean time, I would double or triple your weekly dose of the gear you have. Most folks on a test only cycle like to see numbers between 3500 and 4500

Jagger's picture

Thanks for the feedback. I am not on a cycle though, just looking for a source for Test to replace my TRT since I quit working with my doctor due to him wanting me to jump through too many hoops suddenly. This is exactly where I want my bloodwork to be, so I am good for now (plus I ordered a year supply lol)

CBBurrr's picture

I've been on eroids for a couple years now, and I have to say that we currently have some great sources to pick from. It should be pretty easy to find your new supplier of TRT meds.

QUADFATHER1's picture

Yes I spoke with Jagger and he is fine with my gear. I am a great source, thanks for your time and comment and concern.

CBBurrr's picture

Quad, you responded to my criticism in a calm, professional manner. Thanks for that
I suppose everyone is different, and perhaps OP is one of those people that gets low numbers on bloods.

I was quick to judge, and I apologize for that.

QUADFATHER1's picture

Thanks man I really appreciate that. Hope you have a great weekend.

rageracing's picture

Def underdosed +1 for bloods

enhancedlife's picture

When did you order this ?

Jagger's picture

About 5 weeks ago

enhancedlife's picture

Okay then you have a much newer batch than what I ran a year ago. His stuff a while back was really good.. New stuff looks to be crap

irongame427's picture

The test is 50% underdosed. No other way to put it. 200mg ew of my Watson script puts me over 1000. 240mg ew had me 1500>. I'm so sick of underdosed gear. We can never get that lost time back. Your test levels might creep a little higher by week 6 but not by much.

Jagger's picture

I forgot to address part of this post the other day too. "Your test levels might creep a little higher by week 6 but not by much.". This may be true for someone who is starting a test cycle with their own test production as the baseline. But as I noted I have been on TRT for 3+ years now, so my blood levels stay at around 1000 ng/dL through exogenously administered testosterone.

I have only been using this brand for the past 4 weeks, but I have been using an equivalent dose of T from one source or the other for the past 3 years. Basically I have already stabilized at a T dosage, so after 4 weeks a slight increase in the dosage will have already manifested itself in the bloodwork.

HOpe that makes sense.

Jagger's picture

I try not to make implications on gear quality based on numbers, but I can say that like you 200 mg/week of Watson had me at around 950-1000 when I was working with a doc. Same twice weekly dosing protocol.

romangod's picture

Your test level seem a bit low... Im on TRT and reached that level 3 days after my first pin of 200mg pharma cyp.. It seems that you are very sensitive when it comes to estradiol. You will have to keep an eye on that in future cycles.. Good luck bro.. thanks for the bloods +1

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Jagger's picture

Thanks man. I think I've talked to you before about an issue we had with another supplier on the board. Hope you got that worked out (if it is you that I am remembering).

This isn't actually a cycle, it is slightly higher dosed TRT that I plan to run for long term. Trying to keep my bloods at around this level or a bit higher and optimize quality of life. E2 is high on paper, but I feel fine otherwise (mood, boner quality, etc.) so I may increase my dose a bit but not by much. It is so hard to try and keep stable optimized levels going by bloodwork with underground chemicals. I can't afford to test every other day! LOL

romangod's picture

I remember.... Ive had more than my share of underdosed gear..If you have enough of this gear you can run your TRT on it, now that you know the numbers.. Thats a good level to maintain ...cruise on brother..

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Jagger's picture

Yeah exactly. That is primarily the reason why I get the bloodwork done--just to make sure that I am where I need to be. Feedback to the supplier and community is definitely a nice benefit, but is a secondary benefit as far as I am concerned.

Jagger's picture

Hey man, I am on TRT due to testicular cancer, so my baseline is 0 lol

When i was working with a doc, I was prescribed 200 mg/week of Test Cyp that kept my bloods in the high 900's, and sometimes peaking just over 1000 (3-4 days after injection, like here). That became too cumbersome, so I began buying black market and self administering instead. I certainly do miss the guaranteed quality though!

I have other bloodwork from different labs that I have tried, and seem to show results consistently lower than what would be expected at the given doses (compared to my 950 ng/dL baseline at 200 mg/week of pharma grade Test Cyp).

12.5mg Asin daily is huge! haha. When working with my doc, I took 12.5 mg twice a week (25 mg/week total. again, pharma grade) and that kept me at about 40 with 200 mg/week of Test. I am not terribly concerned about my E2 levels right now, as I try to gauge it more on QOL (mood, erections, etc) and not chase a number. I might up my dose a bit, but only to see what it does more so than trying to optimize the bloodwork.

irongame427's picture

Baseline with exogenous test is irrelevant. It's not like gh when you can add to you baseline. Taking test will totally shut down youe hpta and the exogenous test will be the only test in ones ststem.