Since when does something 40mg overdosed make it the best. I thought (and always prefered) the gear to be dosed as accurately to what the label claims as possible.
If this was an accurate list of top ugl's then it's like giving a grocery list to LE its a dumb idea ugl's are exactly that for a reason and it's to stay in the underground and not to be mainstream bc then everyone would know. Plus all it is is a list of overdosed products and underdosed. Pretty sure anaboliclab.com does the same thing, this just seems like a copy site.
Got a text from a friend. Said he benched 245, but he only had two 45lb plates on each side in the photo. Get my drift. Anyone can post shit. Look at all the commercials for phone service... smh
So many tough guys at the local golds repping 225lbs on flat bench, you know not even getting close to touching chest. Problem is, there so strong by the time 3 sets of 225 for 4 are done, no warm-up of course, straight to the elite level, they can't rack their weights. Poor guys, can't even rack their weights. I reckon they have a hard time driving home too, hell I'm sure they just uber after a killer 225lbs
Rusty, I am the owner of said website. When guys send me in test results, they only go up on the list if they are backed with evidence that is provable, eg a genuine lab result.
Admittedly, it is open for misuse, there are many ways it can be abused but i do try to stay on top of things as best i can.
For example, a reseller for SIS labs sent me a lab report for SIS PRIMO, which was checked and found to be a forgery. a copy of another labs primo.
The site is indeed nothing more than a list. But it is a list backed with proof.
It can be used to at least give an indicator on a lab, eg countless reports showing under in dosage will give an idea.
I am not associated with any of the labs, nor do i wish to be. Like yourself i have an interest in using the best gear and choose not to believe a word that a UGL tells me until i have actual facts in front of me.
I have a growing list of subscribers that do trust my site, and i would not betray that trust posting bs. But your entitled to your opinion.
Not sure if you quite understand the backdrop to rustys post either Sir. This website had members some time past that used to provide so called mass spec tests. Turned out these tests and their results were for sale to the highest bidder. Some sources paid enough to get high purity results for their gear and there was even rumors that if you paid enough sources could buy poor results on their competitors products. Also poor results were also withheld by these sources and our members who provided the service. Which in the end only put us members/customers at risk.
These members who provided the mass spec services ended up being caught up in some legal shannanigans as they eventually crossed the lines into the retail world.
Now maybe my account of what transpired is flawed and not 100% accurate but as this played out on our pages with all us members to see I'm sure you can understand why most of us are extremely skeptical of these types of tests.
Turns out you can't trust people anymore?! What a world we are living in Sir!
These weren't all submitted by third parties? In that case, of course the data are unreliable. But most of these results are bad; either significantly overdosed or underdosed. Not favorable to the sources in question.
Submitted by third party. Well, if i was source rustybrew and wanted a test done I'd make sure it was the best I've got to offer. And of course I'd make sure it was sent via third party because I'm truely honest. So I'd send it off to my source shipper. Have shipper repackaged and then sent to lab from honest third party. It gets tested perfect and everyone believes that its gtg.
One of the current super hot brands did things differently but just as effective. The super good gear went to preferential customers and bloods get posted as excellent. Some no name guy posts same brand and results are horrible. Who is believed? Long time good guy or newb no name? Both is the correct answer imo...
Yes but I never considered using or dealing drugs morally wrong as long as it's not to minors. And even then, calling hormones "drugs" is a little rich to begin with. The term "performance enhancing drug" is propaganda invented by the very agencies that made steroids illegal, which is meant to sway popular opinion. And it works, because people are weak minded and have a precious modicum of ability to think independently of governmental influence.
And notice when a person undergoes a gender reassignment, it's always "hormones" that they're taking, not "drugs." Funny how that works.
Meh, Id still go that route. Even if this report is accurate, Id question anything (even pharma) produced in Pakistan or India honestly. Right or wrong, I just dont have same confidence as if it were produced in US, UK, EU, or even Russia.
This is True. The lab results were mostly lab testing done at a UK testing facility namely ChemClarity, and thus most of the labs tested were indeed eu labs.
Surprisingly, some of the labs tested were born on facebook!
I find this article to be propaganda
It takes a few labs only into consideration.
I can name alot more labs that should have been at the top of the list. That have better test results.
They also used labmax results to write the list where is the mass spec like from simec?
Not Propagranda. Great Labs get mentioned as much as Bad Labs. I dont care what the lab is, where the lab is based, if it is backed with evidence, it is on the list.
Anaboliclab has alot of evidence with simec testing where are all those labs I just noticed a pattern of only certain labs on the list. Thats what made me question it. If it were more diverse it would definitely seem more legit. Just my opinion no hate towards your list.
In the article they say that it is a referencing of back on the forums the websites and even on the social networks .. after I do not know the degree of independence of the article concerning the labs but it is necessary to know that The ug remains of the ug with all its approximations in terms of dosage
I honestly though don't know how accurate this article really is.
If there accepting labmax results to rank it just makes me think it might not be the most accurate and legit ranking
Hitman187Since when does something 40mg overdosed make it the best. I thought (and always prefered) the gear to be dosed as accurately to what the label claims as possible.
AnonSpot-on about dosed!
Accurately dosed gear!?! That's just crazy talk. Give me some mega dosed great because I'm a super swole guy.
If this was an accurate list of top ugl's then it's like giving a grocery list to LE its a dumb idea ugl's are exactly that for a reason and it's to stay in the underground and not to be mainstream bc then everyone would know. Plus all it is is a list of overdosed products and underdosed. Pretty sure anaboliclab.com does the same thing, this just seems like a copy site.
Got a text from a friend. Said he benched 245, but he only had two 45lb plates on each side in the photo. Get my drift. Anyone can post shit. Look at all the commercials for phone service... smh
Wait... 245 isn't having two 45 plates on the bar! I learned something today! ;-)
Man I hope one day I can bench 2 plates on each side lol .. it's the internet everybody is a keyboard hero
So many tough guys at the local golds repping 225lbs on flat bench, you know not even getting close to touching chest. Problem is, there so strong by the time 3 sets of 225 for 4 are done, no warm-up of course, straight to the elite level, they can't rack their weights. Poor guys, can't even rack their weights. I reckon they have a hard time driving home too, hell I'm sure they just uber after a killer 225lbs
I call those guys mr 1/4 rep.. they move the bar 1/4 of the way and press it lol
Do they even Lyft? Obviously not. That's why they Uber.
Wait, aren't you supppsed to count the weight of your arms on the bench press?
Damn he prolly had the rolex on too! Looking like a boss
BOGHey that SIS Lab is under dosed on everything. There pushing that bull shit.
Used their t-prop loved it
Pakistani Bayer Testosterone Enan 201.09mg per ml (48.91 under)
Thats shitty if accurate. Dammit man.
RustyhookerI'd bet the list is bullcrap. "Tested" gear makes me laugh my ANGUS off.
Old timers know whats up.....
I see what you did there
So THAT'S what happened with Angus!
Rusty, I am the owner of said website. When guys send me in test results, they only go up on the list if they are backed with evidence that is provable, eg a genuine lab result.
Admittedly, it is open for misuse, there are many ways it can be abused but i do try to stay on top of things as best i can.
For example, a reseller for SIS labs sent me a lab report for SIS PRIMO, which was checked and found to be a forgery. a copy of another labs primo.
The site is indeed nothing more than a list. But it is a list backed with proof.
It can be used to at least give an indicator on a lab, eg countless reports showing under in dosage will give an idea.
I am not associated with any of the labs, nor do i wish to be. Like yourself i have an interest in using the best gear and choose not to believe a word that a UGL tells me until i have actual facts in front of me.
I have a growing list of subscribers that do trust my site, and i would not betray that trust posting bs. But your entitled to your opinion.
Not sure if you quite understand the backdrop to rustys post either Sir. This website had members some time past that used to provide so called mass spec tests. Turned out these tests and their results were for sale to the highest bidder. Some sources paid enough to get high purity results for their gear and there was even rumors that if you paid enough sources could buy poor results on their competitors products. Also poor results were also withheld by these sources and our members who provided the service. Which in the end only put us members/customers at risk.
These members who provided the mass spec services ended up being caught up in some legal shannanigans as they eventually crossed the lines into the retail world.
Now maybe my account of what transpired is flawed and not 100% accurate but as this played out on our pages with all us members to see I'm sure you can understand why most of us are extremely skeptical of these types of tests.
Turns out you can't trust people anymore?! What a world we are living in Sir!
Good one rusty.
Lmao
This is true, as is everything on the internet is subject to bologney.
RustyhookerI really wish there was a better way.
I read old threads. I'm familiar with a good bit of eroids lore.
Are you saying the data are unreliable because the method of testing is unreliable?
He is saying with enough money any source can have pure oil test out st 99% pure dosed at 256 mg per mill lol
These weren't all submitted by third parties? In that case, of course the data are unreliable. But most of these results are bad; either significantly overdosed or underdosed. Not favorable to the sources in question.
Totally agree. Third parties with proof of testing.
I have refused to post up over 100 results because there was no genuine proof of result.
RustyhookerSubmitted by third party. Well, if i was source rustybrew and wanted a test done I'd make sure it was the best I've got to offer. And of course I'd make sure it was sent via third party because I'm truely honest. So I'd send it off to my source shipper. Have shipper repackaged and then sent to lab from honest third party. It gets tested perfect and everyone believes that its gtg.
One of the current super hot brands did things differently but just as effective. The super good gear went to preferential customers and bloods get posted as excellent. Some no name guy posts same brand and results are horrible. Who is believed? Long time good guy or newb no name? Both is the correct answer imo...
I was that newb no name I do believe if you're talking about the same brand as I'm thinking
I have to believe that honest sources exist. I just have to.
Remember tho there still drug dealers lol
Yes but I never considered using or dealing drugs morally wrong as long as it's not to minors. And even then, calling hormones "drugs" is a little rich to begin with. The term "performance enhancing drug" is propaganda invented by the very agencies that made steroids illegal, which is meant to sway popular opinion. And it works, because people are weak minded and have a precious modicum of ability to think independently of governmental influence.
And notice when a person undergoes a gender reassignment, it's always "hormones" that they're taking, not "drugs." Funny how that works.
lol yeah no shit
I'm one of those guys that always goes with the bigger pharma labs like bayer because it's the safer bet and once again I'm wrong
Meh, Id still go that route. Even if this report is accurate, Id question anything (even pharma) produced in Pakistan or India honestly. Right or wrong, I just dont have same confidence as if it were produced in US, UK, EU, or even Russia.
RustyhookerBayer listed as ugl....lmao
Cooper listed as ugl...double lol
number 32. and 41. ?
Lol @ "wrong ester"
lol yes but same batch as it seems...cause I think they have just one batch from the cyp.
I saw this yesterday and thought it seemed to be mostly about U.K. Brands and what's used around there. ?
This is True. The lab results were mostly lab testing done at a UK testing facility namely ChemClarity, and thus most of the labs tested were indeed eu labs.
Surprisingly, some of the labs tested were born on facebook!
lol the same company is both first for overdosed tren and last for significantly underdosed test e. Not promising.
I find this article to be propaganda
It takes a few labs only into consideration.
I can name alot more labs that should have been at the top of the list. That have better test results.
They also used labmax results to write the list where is the mass spec like from simec?
Not Propagranda. Great Labs get mentioned as much as Bad Labs. I dont care what the lab is, where the lab is based, if it is backed with evidence, it is on the list.
Anaboliclab has alot of evidence with simec testing where are all those labs I just noticed a pattern of only certain labs on the list. Thats what made me question it. If it were more diverse it would definitely seem more legit. Just my opinion no hate towards your list.
Complete bullshite in my opinion totally agree with you
toto34In the article they say that it is a referencing of back on the forums the websites and even on the social networks .. after I do not know the degree of independence of the article concerning the labs but it is necessary to know that The ug remains of the ug with all its approximations in terms of dosage
I honestly though don't know how accurate this article really is.
If there accepting labmax results to rank it just makes me think it might not be the most accurate and legit ranking